Again the trend seems to be mixed plan. Open plan offices with private areas.
In which case you can not argue that there is significant money/effort involved. It's either the cost of headphones and the effort of walking tens of metres. Developers are going to need better arguments than that to convince HR/Management that this is not a trend worth doing.
> Again the trend seems to be mixed plan. Open plan offices with private areas.
What do you mean, "again"? This statement is the first mention of such in this sub-discussion. Also, I'm not going on a tangent about the joke that the "private areas" in such offices turn into or how infeasible this design is for many lines of business.
> In which case you can not argue that there is significant money/effort involved.
"Significant money and effort" as in the sum total devoted to finding solutions to the problem of distracting, sub-optimal environments being foisted upon engineers, not the cost to a single hypothetical engineer.
> It's either the cost of headphones and the effort of walking tens of metres.
That statement presumes: a) headphones are allowed; b) headphones work for everyone; c) people have work they can pick up and move; d) that private areas actually exist in sufficient quantity for those who want them; e) that private areas are not appropriated permanently by people up the political food chain.
> Developers are going to need better arguments than that to convince HR/Management that this is not a trend worth doing.
That statement assumes HR and Management care about any argument besides cost.
Also, you completely ignored the point I was actually making, which is that throwing engineers together into a giant room does not give you the cross-pollination that so many management consultants claim you get.
If I have to walk tens of meters to meet in a private space with anyone I want to talk to, then 1) the supposed serendipitous transfer of knowledge does not happen, and 2) we could just as easily have had this encounter in my or their private office space.
Considering the amount of money and effort engineers put into blocking distractions in open-plan offices, it is probably about the same.