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The rate of return on this is phenomenal.

A 53" balloon costs $9.99. You could shut down all large and medium hubs in the US for $629.37/day. The asymmetry is astounding and I'm surprised we don't defend against this kind of attack more efficiently.



Doesn't usually work. There are over a thousand incursions by unmanned aircraft systems along the U.S.-Mexico border each month, per the NORAD commander: https://www.war.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/370778... . They pretty much never result in shutting down air space or launching missiles.

Responding to a single party balloon with a giant laser, thus causing a saner government official to close the airspace because some moron is firing giant lasers into the air, is unusual. Probably not a usable asymmetric attack vector.


wow maybe we should stop giving the law enforcement orgs weapons of war


All cops should have a nuke.


This sounds like the start of a really good beat poem...


"We'll try to stay serene and calm, When Alabama gets the bomb!"


'saner govt official because moron firing giant lasers into the air' - lasers just go everywhere at once and hit everything in the air, into the stratosphere? it's a big sky and gets bigger the higher you go.


lol, this is a great imply-but-don't-make-a-point from an account called gunapologist99.

Is the implication here that someone firing laser weapons at things flying near the airport has no realistic danger for planes flying near the airport and therefore this was an overreaction?


Yes, because the danger didn’t merit a panicked 10 day ground stop with no info and a shoot down warning, but a NOTAM about the risk and routing.


were they really firing it randomly into empty air? they sound even less competent than I thought.


I think the general assumption is that the US government is competent enough to know the difference between a party balloon and a real threat, but apparently it is not. At least not under the current admin.


America's war on balloons has been ongoing for some time:

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/18/1158048921/pico-balloon-k9yo


I'm equally surprised we don't fend off these rampant goblin threats too!

More pragmatically, such a system would cost multiple millions, and would take years to actually stabilize in a manner that would recover the fictitious costs to shutting down the airports with gaps. (i.e. I'm surprised you so easily bought into the 500k figure)

All because a bunch of idiots lost track of their one balloon, once? The asymmetry is banal. There are cheaper ways that require less planning than that.


I avoided the 500k figure and instead just mentioned airport shutdowns.

I'm surprised you saw it in my comment. It's reminiscent of an airport seeing a would be drone.


Such a system is as easy as a set of binoculars and an airsoft gun


This is already a thing in Eastern Europe.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8655gn84ego


If it became a real issue you'd hire someone for $25/hr to patrol with an airsoft gun


On the plus side, this method of disabling the target is cheaper and more environmentally friendly than using a guided missile. Any object can just be locked on to and effortlessly zapped out of the sky - that’s impressive.


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"99 red balloons" starts playing in the background.


Ninety-nine dreams I have had

In every one, a red balloon

It's all over and I'm standin' pretty

In this dust that was a city

If I could find a souvenir

Just to prove the world was here

And here is a red balloon

I think of you, and let it go


"99 red balloons" sounds almost quaint and innocent, even ironically a bit darkly refreshing, with its portrayal of the relatively clear threat of cold war nuclear annihilation.

Compare it to the constant flux of threats we now face, all given similar coverage today, large or small, sometimes plausibly real, but often ultimately fictional: brought on for distraction, by deception, incompetence, poor communication, ego, and/or other unethical agenda.


99 Decision Street, 99 ministers meet

To worry, worry, super scurry

Call out the troops now in a hurry

This is what we've waited for

This is it, boys, this is war

The President is on the line as 99 red balloons go by




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