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Your new feature is privacy invading. It's none of your business to detect if someones mic is on unless they invite you to do that.

What is so hard about that?

> Our PMs don't like making things opt-in.

Lamest excuse ever.

I wouldn't be surprised if you phoned back home about that mic activation - do you?

I recently joined an org where Notion is in use - I will actively lobby them to not install the desktop app, at all or to quit Notion alltogether.



What exactly is the privacy issue with detecting when a process begins using the microphone?


Following my habits, and reporting to a data broker that how I use my microphone, allowing even more precise profiling of my life circumstances or habits.


We don’t report your habits to any data broker. This information use used purely for local UI.


Yet... you don't report habits to a data broker yet. It is currently used for local UI.

Once you already are in the habit of evading user-privacy, it's a only a couple of down quarters before you start tracking and sending data to data brokers or someone else. This is why no one here likes this behavior.


And evidently their PM's don't like doing opt-out, so...


Delta Airlines has entered the chat.

As more and more companies start to use AI for “personalized”/targeted pricing, offers, advertising, etc. The more this exact type of data will be useful and therefore lucrative.


Sorry if it came through like that. I didn't mean to say Notion shares personal data to broker(s). I just wanted to highlight where it can go.

Please don't forget: Road to hell is paved with good intentions. Making features which can eavesdrop on users opt-in can go very wrong, very fast.

I understand the need to make it "feel like magic", but that line is very thin.

Last note, please when you move something around (e.g. Calculate button from bottom of the database columns to header menu), please let users know. It really feels bad when you use something too much just disappears.

BTW, I'm a Notion subscriber as you can say :)




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