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If you're human, you aren't an obligate carnivore, because humans can live healthily on a fully vegan diet. Animal products (meat, dairy, eggs) certainly gave pre-industrial humans a big boost as a dense and (at times) readily available source of calories and protein, but that's a far cry from "needing" it.

Modern usage of animal products for food is purely for convenience and pleasure. A point could be made that that's sufficent, but it's objectively not necessary.



I don't feel good without meat, and good substitutes are less available.

But my main point (which I started to write above but seemingly decided to omit, to my own confusion) is that this fear-cold-hunger-devour-alive-die-young bs is how wild nature works every day for eons. I am its creature and should see no guilt except for true sadism.

I agree with regulating bad farms away, but suffering through reduction of my already small demand to zero barely helps anything.


Yes, little animal babies get happily eaten by predators every day.

But they did not put them in cold metal boxes before to rot in their own shit.




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