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next up: plants suffer and try to avoid suffering, vegans die out due to inability to reduce suffering or move the goal post to something selfishly convenient just like everyone else.

just a matter of time.



It should be a red flag when you're hoping for huge shake-up discoveries in the future to justify your behavior today.


I believe plants are valid organisms that avoid negative stimuli and that this undermines 'suffer' based consumption arguments

There are other plant consumption / meat avoidance preferences I am completely fine with


Flawed argument because animals still eat 10x the amount of plants vegans do. So if plant suffering was a legitimate concern, one would still be vegan, which is a lifestyle to reduce harm to animals.


there are plenty of reasons to be avoid eating meat that have nothing to do with reducing harm to animals.

and animals consuming plants has nothing to do with any of your observations. If this was a standardized test prompt, your first sentence would be erroneous information.


Surely this study has been funded by the meat industry.




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