to be fair it is an open website with no registration required to see its contents, shouldn't be hard to show how that is supposedly not true through archives especially considering the sheer scale of what is being alleged and in a span of ~10 odd years of operation. And yet since looking closer at kiwifarms during the start of the cloudflare campaign I'm still trying to find some that isn't a random twitter user going full on trust me, and I asked.
The website is put at a complicated position of having to prove a negative, and even if they do show evidence of "hey we banned this person" one could very much just say it was because they were in the spotlight. While on the other hand the accusations are just vague ones that are taken as gospel, and even outright admitted lies that journalists publish knowingly[0].
There are for sure moral questions surrounding it and its not a nice place that makes sense to not want to be involved in because of it not being a nice place. But using the nebulous accusations to make that decision instead of what is known already is not fair in my view.
This whole happenning seems to be intrinsically linked to streamer/twitter drama so it becomes a tangled mess, but a streamer seems to have done a good writeup on it with most of everything sourced[1]. Jesse singal also did a two part podcast on it doing a pretty interesting deep dive on it as well[2].
[0]:Some of many relating to the keffals case: Journalists claiming it was kiwifarms that hacked the uber when it was done by doxbin(not gonna link her doxbin, just search for the name on google and you'll find it), several doxes that were claimed to be done by kiwifarms also fall in this doxbin did it but kiwifarms is the one that gets written up for it. This wouldn't bother me much since the website does dox people and its not against the rules so what difference does it make, but when its journalists in the mainstream media clearly making them a scapegoat for something that is not uncommon nor will be fixed if the website goes down its just dishonest. And then there's places like cbc claiming that the christchurch shooting was livestreamed there[3] and the perpetrator was an user which is just blatantly false and I can't give the benefit of the doubt given how everyone knows it was facebook, let alone a journalist. Blaming the website for people showing up and taking pictures close to the streamers house then posting it on 4chan(!) and somehow its kiwifarms doing, the list goes on.
[0.1]: https://archive.ph/6JvRJ (claims that journalists knew about doxbin, while blaming kiwifarms)
The website is put at a complicated position of having to prove a negative, and even if they do show evidence of "hey we banned this person" one could very much just say it was because they were in the spotlight. While on the other hand the accusations are just vague ones that are taken as gospel, and even outright admitted lies that journalists publish knowingly[0].
There are for sure moral questions surrounding it and its not a nice place that makes sense to not want to be involved in because of it not being a nice place. But using the nebulous accusations to make that decision instead of what is known already is not fair in my view.
This whole happenning seems to be intrinsically linked to streamer/twitter drama so it becomes a tangled mess, but a streamer seems to have done a good writeup on it with most of everything sourced[1]. Jesse singal also did a two part podcast on it doing a pretty interesting deep dive on it as well[2].
[0]:Some of many relating to the keffals case: Journalists claiming it was kiwifarms that hacked the uber when it was done by doxbin(not gonna link her doxbin, just search for the name on google and you'll find it), several doxes that were claimed to be done by kiwifarms also fall in this doxbin did it but kiwifarms is the one that gets written up for it. This wouldn't bother me much since the website does dox people and its not against the rules so what difference does it make, but when its journalists in the mainstream media clearly making them a scapegoat for something that is not uncommon nor will be fixed if the website goes down its just dishonest. And then there's places like cbc claiming that the christchurch shooting was livestreamed there[3] and the perpetrator was an user which is just blatantly false and I can't give the benefit of the doubt given how everyone knows it was facebook, let alone a journalist. Blaming the website for people showing up and taking pictures close to the streamers house then posting it on 4chan(!) and somehow its kiwifarms doing, the list goes on.
[0.1]: https://archive.ph/6JvRJ (claims that journalists knew about doxbin, while blaming kiwifarms)
[1]: https://destinygg.substack.com/p/keffals-a-case-study-on-int... (Just read chapters 2-3-4, the rest is dumb internet spats)
[2]: https://www.blockedandreported.org/p/episode-131-who-is-stal...
[3]: https://archive.ph/JF35i