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Can someone help me find whos idea was it?

Basically kill free open source. Make every "new open source" (NOS) program dual licensed, free for non commercial use and paid for conmercial use.

He proposed companies paying 1% of revenue to license this software. But it would all go through a proxy company that would gather payment and send it to participating companies, I dont remember how it would be split.

I think this is actually a way forward. I would feel better building on top of this kind of stack vs npm ecosystem



Doesn’t answer your question but something I’ve wondered about as well. I don’t maintain any open source software (yet?) but if I were to start a project I’d likely use a permissive license.

I don’t want to start a philosophical flame war about licenses, but this idea makes sense to me. The details will likely take work to iron out, but why not have open source licenses with a clause for companies with over a certain amount of annual net profit. Does anyone have examples of this in practice? As far as I know, licensing models like Mongo or Elasticsearch are a bit more binary.

I’d be fine letting individuals, small businesses, and startups use the software for free in perpetuity unless they hit some metric like “greater than $x in annual profit” or whatever. I guess a counterpoint to this might just be that companies that get to that scale would just develop the same thing in-house instead.


What you're describing is not an open source license. You seem to be looking for something akin to the Unreal Engine license, which Wikipedia describes as "source-available commercial software."


Thanks for that term. I found the Commons Clause[0] that goes along with any existing permissive license.

[0]: https://commonsclause.com/


That is Bruce Peren's Post-Open Source License: https://perens.com/2020/10/06/post-open-source-license-early... But POSL is at best a forlorn hope since it's playing the game that proprietary software companies are literally designed around winning: "They're charging 1% of revenue you say? Let me show you how our software is cheaper; just think of the savings!".




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