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The chemtrail crowd will love that. Our experience with covid has stolen any hope I had that humanity would be able to rally around scientifically sound solutions to a common enemy.


It's time to stop caring about what the "chemtrail crowd" will or will not like, and consider how to politically neuter them to prevent them from harming themselves and others.


When they stop armed stormings of government centres, kidnappings, and coup plots, ignoring them may be viable. I'd not advise letting them determine policy, goals, or methods, but I'd keep a very alert and wary eye on them for the forseable future.


Never said ignore. I said neuter. Reasoned argument cannot be used to defeat the enemies of reason.


Fair enough regards neuter, though you did suggest we "stop caring". I disagree with that specific advice.

Note that "caring" != sympathise, hear out, or otherwise contenance repeated misinformation and disinformation. It does mean being aware of what responses might be and/or are.


> I said neuter.

Ah yes, I so missed the good old concentration camps.

/S

This thread is pure totalitarian thinking. You think you know the Truth (TM) because there's a "science" label on it but in fact you're listening to humans that may or may not be good at science (or are just lying to advance an agenda).

When people think they know the Truth and start to discriminate society based on that it will ALWAYS end with camps.


A society that gives up on knowledge and knowing, or actively rejects the notion, has no chance of succeeding in a difficult world. The "chem-trail crowd" is an example of a group that has rejected the very idea of knowledge. There is no argument to make. There are no facts to point to. All that is left is to minimize the political damage done by, not to put too fine a point on it, the kind of morons who believe in chemtrails.

In any event, you believe what you do, and I'll believe what I do, and we'll see who's society does better. That's the only test that counts, in the end, and requires neither our consent or interaction.


> In any event, you believe what you do, and I'll believe what I do, and we'll see who's society does better.

This has already been tested to oblivion. Remember the cold war, the West vs Communists? Freedom works even with chemtrail and flat earth crowd.


Oh it will piss of elements of the left and the right. The Chem trail crowd and the crowd that wants to deal with climate change by creating a big bureaucracy. Oh, and the crowd that thinks this isn't real.

Fortunately it doesn't matter, because we can just get started, buy in is nice, but not really necessary. Heck I don't even think congressional buy in is necessary, as Biden can order the military to start doing this.


> Biden can order the military to start doing this.

Sure, let's short-circuit democracy, it's useless...


I mean the reason there is a Congress and a presidency is to get around having elections for everything. I am not commenting on whether it would be better to have direct democracy or not, but it seems a weird place to complain about it.




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