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Both of the cases you mention are still 'seriously trying to follow the precepts' (for many Jews, at least). A lot of (Orthodox) Jews seem to have this idea that an Eruv is this big wink-wink-nod-nod loophole which blatantly circumvents a biblical prohibition through somewhat arbitrary (ie. Lacking in essential religious meaning) legal gymnastics.

This is not the case. An Eruv is actually a beautiful example of the halakhic (translate: "Jewish law") process working as it's supposed to. Its implementation combines sharp hermeneutics with a sensitivity to the needs of real communities and a strong understanding of the meta-halakhic principles which drive the entire process

I'm not really sure if a sub- comment on HN is the right place to expand on this, but I'm happy to discuss it via some other medium.



> I'm not really sure if a sub- comment on HN is the right place to expand on this, but I'm happy to discuss it via some other medium.

I'm interested in subscribing to whatever that turns out to be.




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