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I believe Rob Pike and Ken T are firmly in the 'add prints' and think camp rather than use a debugger so you're in good company.


Rob Pike has definitely used a debugger: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1941206

Preferring logging statements is one thing, never having used a debugger is another.


It's as though you didn't even read the very article you linked


It's as if you didn't read the comment I wrote and started foaming at the mouth at the chance to say RTFA as is HN tradition. (Or didn't read the article closely enough yourself)

He said explicitly, he used a debugger.

He came to understand the value of having a proper mental model of your code, but the comment I replied to said they had never used a debugger.

My comment was about the difference between knowing how to problem solve without a debugger, and straight up never having used it

There's nothing wrong with having more tools in your toolbox


> but the comment I replied to said they had never used a debugger.

Except it doesn't say that.


> This is a serious question because in 5+ years of programming I have never used a debuggers. The only time I used a debugger was when I was learning to program and to trace out for loops.

They're saying it themselves, "yeah technically once I used it when I was figuring out how for loops work".

I wouldn't say I've ever written a Brainfuck program even though once I messed around with a hello world on an online interpreter

Leave it to people here to say a comment doesn't say literally the exact words it says

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The spirit of multiple replies, not just mine is debuggers are an option you should at least be familiar with before tossing aside, even if you do end up not needing them


Except that is not the comment you replied to.

> I believe Rob Pike and Ken T are firmly in the 'add prints' and think camp rather than use a debugger so you're in good company.

And that comment doesn't make any mention of Rob Pike never having used a debugger.


Except it is because this is a comment chain...

None of our comments exist in a vacuum.

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Person A says: I never used a debugger

Person B replies: You're in company with Rob Pike on that

I reply to Person A and B: Yeah but even Rob Pike uses debuggers

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The fact I have to spell this out is appalling.


Hint: the word rather

It's a preference not an absolutism.


It's the preference of the people referenced by Person B.

Person A the word _never_, the definition of absolutism.

You're literally making my point, a preference towards not using debugger not a limitation, an absolutist approach of never having used one professionally could be.

It's not like I said "OMG go use one right now or your career will fail" either before you latch onto that too. I said even those guys with a preference away from them, have used them professionally

Didn't think I'd be spelling out 1st grade reading comprehension on HN but here we are.

Why this sudden increase who think turning off their critical thinking skills to go "gotcha" because you didn't write out your comment like a thesis is something positive?




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