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> We can talk all day about how we got to this status quo and what can or can't be done about it, but the reality is that if you want to live a real, modern, urban life in 2020, so many people and organizations just assume you to have a fully-functional smartphone that you will be actively hampered without one.

And for that, you can also get a stock Android phone like 80% of the world and still not be an Apple consumer. :)



And be saddled with Google's services, which are 10x worse with regards to privacy than even this new revelation about Apple? I don't really understand your reasoning.


My reasoning in this entire thread has been:

1. This isn't news about Apple's encryption, it's just that the status quo is here to stay. Your Apple device is as secure/private as it has been, and will probably not get any better. It's disappointing, but not really much of a revelation to anyone who's been paying attention since 2012 (or earlier).

2. The way the headline is phrased vindicates an orthogonal personal decision I made to not purchase hardware or software from Apple.

Given your most recent comment, at some point, you must have assumed a lot of things that a) aren't true and b) I never stated or implied.


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We live with a hellish duopoly. If I'm not buying Apple, what other option is there?

Attempting to pantomime surprise is dickish and unncessary for HN.




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