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65k is barely liveable now? What percent of the US do you think makes over that amount?


You're right. You can live on that amount, perhaps well depending on how and where you situate yourself. It's basically middle-income. How far that income will get you in a place like San Francisco, Los Angeles, or New York is another thing.


And sitting at a desk in a heated/air conditioned office is not just like every other job - especially those that involve cleaning.

But I agree that if you don't enjoy programming, you're probably not going to be especially good at it.




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