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> You should have the ability to write 20-30 pages well structured text to show that you can think, organize your thinking and communicate your thinking to others in your field. Many people graduate without this ability, but at least they have had some practice and can write 5 pages better than when they started the college.

Almost all engineering programs I've seen, practically don't have any English requirements. I never needed to write a paper like that.



>Almost all engineering programs I've seen, practically don't have any English requirements.

This is certainly true if you're a rich international student paying international student fees.


at my university, You're required to take 2 semesters of english and for senior design 1 you're basically writing a 100 page book on your proposal.


We were 'required' to take two semesters of English, but it was really easy to test out of, so that's practically what everyone did.




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