Agree. I see civil discussions like this one more often on HN than anywhere else.
And yet we have big shot VC's bashing HN as "Hater News" if the conversation doesn't support their narrative. When I see a HN thread turn predominately negative on a topic it's usually because it deserves it.
The things I've seen throughout my life have taught me that even if you'd have a community of saints, who are perfect and know no sin, there will still be people who will find all kind of negative things to say about that community, whether because of misunderstanding, different worldviews or just plain malice. It's best to not be quick to trust criticisms of third parties, especially when they try to paint a group in a very negative light.
