It is a common tactic among abusive parents to convince their child without them, they'd be unable to survive in the wider world. Any mistakes will become irrefutable proof thereof, and any attempts to break this control and do things on their own will be treated as ingratitude, often prompting the abuser to instantly abandon all parental duties to "teach a lesson".

I don't disagree, but in this context I don't think those are the same parents that are yeeting their kids off to board at university as soon as they are of age.

As one of those kids, you could’ve just stopped at “I don’t think”, because you’re not thinking critically if you think we don’t exist.

I wasn’t allowed to have a personal device or unsupervised internet access until I graduated.

My parents forced me to go to a school with a summer work program. I was yeeted to university by my wing clipping abusers THREE DAYS AFTER GRADUATION.

Rural, miles from the nearest town of 1200 so I didn’t have access to the resources needed to change any aspect of this.

I was deeply hampered by this, and despite being one of the salutatorians of my graduating class (we had ties due to AP), I crashed out of that university after a semester.

Sometimes the kids basically run away to universities as soon as they're of age.

> And some kids haven't got their head straight after puberty at 16, and still need (or would have needed) the training wheels.

But on average they don't.

> Society works on averages.

Right. So setting the rules around the outliers is wrong. Glad you're clear on that.

> Most people being ready little adults at 16 doesn't mean everyone is.

You don't have to be a completely self-sufficient adult to handle the freaking Internet.

I feel like I'm in a comedy show where I'm the only one who actually reads what others are writing.

There's no evidence in this response or others that you're reading what other people are writing.

So a torrent tracker isn't in-scope because it doesn't distribute and only facilitates peer discovery?

The difference is a bartender has a handy thing called a human brain that can integrate every evidence and prior without explicit handling. Which a computer program can not. Now we have another "legitimate interest", potentially _forcing_ us to collect biometric and behavioural data we definitely wouldn't monetize to just cover its cost.

Agreed. And if the same legislation was designed under the supervision of domain experts, it would be an HTTP header or envvar to indicate one of specified brackets, with recommended integration with applicable parental control system.

Instead it was drafted by people not understanding the difference between browser, app, and "OS", explaining the result.

Yeah, that's usually what happens. But many of those errors are TLS protocol errors, not expired certs.

My pet (conspiracy) theory is ISP middle boxes toying with degrading/MITMing SSL.

Tried that in 2022 before the war broke out. Didn't take long for reality to catch up with me, sitting in a neighbor's cellar hearing missile whooshing past up above.

Ignorance is a very costly commodity.

Even that will pass (for most — for some, it might simply "end" :/). I've been sitting in a cellar and bomb shelters in 1999 myself: yes, your struggle is worse and longer, but it will pass. The information you need today is very limited, so focus on that (what will be hit next; are there potential targets around you at all times, where do you get water/food in case systems break down, etc).

We are all victims of this weirdo game of global, live Risk, and unless you commit yourself to politics, really not much you can do here either: survive and focus on what's next!

Stay safe and good luck!

You couldn't have prevented the reason why the missiles are flying in the first place though. Of course a realistic sense of alert still helps, but it's lunatics in Russia running the show, not you or anybody else you know.

This is a time and target where "them-ing" is appropriate.

Next time you can just tell us you didn't write it.

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It's the denigration of any and all intellectual pursuits that gets me. It's the myopic lead the blind, in a race to empty their brain fastest before the singularity can rupture them into the mainframe heaven.

Their irl counterparts at the university make me think it must be envy, the same as with AI art: they were never good programmers but have always envied the their prestige; and using this new wonderful machine, they can now live out their fantasy at the expense of others. For others it's just nihilism: why not cheat through your entire higher ed if it's now entirely possible?

But many AI-boosters here on HN were once respected programmers, so what else can it be? Fatigue setting in with age, exacerbated by too many levels of indirection in modern software, AI becoming a crutch to avoid noticing you're slowing down?

Or it’s just a useful tool that lets me build more stuff and focus on what I’m more interested in, and can use it to learn.

AI becomes problematic when its exceeds the role of a tool.

It can be a useful tool to do all that, that's what I use it for. Unfortunately a lot of AI boosters have the sfba move fast and break things mentality and that leads to all sorts of slop being pushed.

I think broadly speaking, we need less software that's higher quality. Commercially at least, LLM's seem to be creating more lower quality software. Less software but much higher quality, and then let the gaps be filled in by houseplant programming. Instead we get half-baked vibe coded Cloudflare-isk slop being promoted, or CEO's of saas-slop providers salivating at the chance to fire half of their workforce.

I want to see more houseplants being posted here, LLM generated or not. At least they would tend to have more care and love put into them.

I'm thinking of migrating to ExcaliDraw or Xournal++ next time I need a whiteboard.

The performative closing of public contributions citing the slop scare felt disingenuous from the start. You couldn't be bothered to implement _any_ mitigations that leave the community engaged with the project?

Writing a contributor karma bot, moving to a non-social or obscure git forge (most slop contributors are resume farming and GitHub is the only forge the HR cares about), newbie-unfriendly non-public workflows like git send-mail, or references from Discord... This isn't an AGI on the other side of the screen, planning the perfect strategy to infiltrate your project; it's a sub-script-kiddie trying to fill a portfolio with quick "contributions" doing the more annoying version of "fixing typos" in docs.

We're in chats with the GitHub team, they're taking it really seriously. I consider our pause on contributions similar to pi's open source vacation, we'll figure it out. https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/blob/main/packages/codin...