Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | peterjlee's commentslogin

Alternatively, you could put your computer in a tank of mineral oil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V06LLTNxc4


There's also using ARM, Calyos stuff[0]

Some old Macs were also 'potentially' silent if you were to today remove the HDD and the optical drive, which were the only mechanical parts[1].

[0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LauL5JxYis

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Mac_G4_Cube


It's a cool idea but that particular build has 4 fans.


Millennials still watch sports and it's still pretty hard to watch sports without having your parent's cable service logins..


Pretty hard to watch them with their logins too. The Comcast stream for game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals was completely borked yesterday with a weird mixed-content warning in the dev console, and I'm fairly certain it wasn't just my account affected.



The text fields on the sign-up form [0] are unlabeled, the submit button ("Register") doesn't visually show keyboard focus, and almost nothing has sufficient color contrast; that doesn't bode well for the actual player's accessibility. Also, the <form> element has a completely unnecessary role="form" ARIA attribute which suggests accessibility has crossed someone's mind but also that it's likely errors of consequence have been or will be made.

[0] https://play.pocketcasts.com/users/sign_up


It's been a couple years and I don't recall if he was associated with NPR, WBEZ or both, but a meetup I sometimes go to had someone from "there" speaking about accessibility and giving the impression that it was actually a pretty serious matter for them.


I've been frustrated with many free podcast apps so I paid for Pocket Casts and I've been happy since. I think it's a smart move by NPR et al. What they want is the usage data like where they pause, where they skip, etc. These data were traditionally not available to podcast publishers because podcast is really just an mp3 file uploaded to some server.

NPR has the NPR One app but I guess not enough people are using it. They've been open about what data they're collecting and I honestly don't mind NPR knowing about my podcast listening habits.


> What they want is the usage data like where they pause, where they skip, etc.

That's exactly what I don't want

> These data were traditionally not available to podcast publishers because podcast is really just an mp3 file uploaded to some server.

Good. Long may it remain so.


I don't want them to have individual data, but I'm fine with them having anonymized statistics. Knowing what people are doing with things you make is such a valuable tool for making it better.


People with these statistics will be making things better for themselves and for advertisers. This may often coincide with making things better for users, but the type of data you're talking about is mostly useful for making it harder to skip ads.


I like my free, RSS-shared MP3 files as much as the next listener, but these things aren't free to produce, just like PocketCasts isn't free to make. Podcasters sell ads, and advertisers rightly want something in return. If ads are easy to skip, they have no assurance that they're getting anything for their money, so the money dries up, and the podcast goes under. There is always going to be a game of back and forth between ads and avoiding them, and this is just the next move, if it even happens.


I prefer the direction it's going in now where most podcasts I listen to have an option to subscribe to pay the podcaster more directly. This does not require turning my player into spyware yet it keeps the podcasts going.


I agree in theory but what else can be made better about podcasts? Is it worth the trade off for everyone's data? These are questions I believe were asked and answered with NPR One. Also, anonymized data is still data and that derived information can be very powerful.


The only caveat to this is their insight into advertisements. Lets say a podcast runs ads during its first 5 minutes, they can now tell exactly how many people are listening or skipping those ads and may be incentivized to start putting ads in the middle of podcasts, or implement some sort of non skip-able interruption.


Exactly my thoughts. I'm currently using a different podcast app that has a neat "fast forward 30 seconds" feature that I only ever use to skip ads.

It's annoying enough having to get my phone out of my pocked to press the fast forward button. If the ads were unskippable, I'd switch apps immediately.


Or they can make the ads less annoying. For the most part NPR podcasts are pretty good for having "not worth skipping" ads that are a few seconds long.


I also love Pocket Casts, particularly with the "skip pauses" feature. Often podcasts are full of short pauses... to date, I have saved 9 hours of time with the feature enabled!


I’ve saved 18 hours, and over 2 days by playing at 1.5x speed! Whoa. I listen to podcasts more than I thought!


I too am a podcast addict and listen at 2x-3x on most of my podcasts (the non fiction ones).

According to Pocket Casts, variable speed has saved me 281 days, 2 hours. Removing silence 3 days, 23 hours.

(@rustyshelf, if you're out there, how do I rank? :-) )


2.2x and silence skipping. I've saved 180 hours according to podcast addict on the silence skipping alone and probably another 400 on speed.


I'm at 42 days 5 hours total. I love love love Pocket Casts stats, and think they should be more prominent.


I've listened to 37 days, 9 hours total, and have saved 28 days 22 hours.

- 1 day 5 hours from skipping - 25 days 19 hours from variable speed - 1 day 12 hours from remove silence - 8 hours 28 minutes from skipping intros

I'm most surprised by hour much "remove silence" has saved me.


You should give AntennaPod a chance, very lightweight and allows for new podcasts to be added. It is open source and has is actively developed.

Additionally you won't have any new requirement to create a new account or pull analytics from your listening habits as you mentioned towards the end.


AntennaPod looks nice, but I do use the Web version of Pocket Casts a lot. It wouldn't be too hard to switch back to gPodder and Rhythmbox, but I love that state syncs between the Android app and web player. It will be hard to let Pocket Casts go (if it does become a spy).

Source for AntennaPod: https://github.com/AntennaPod/AntennaPod


I'd really love to use AntennaPod but they're missing the key smart playlist feature I love from BeyondPod. I don't even have to open the app most days and I can easily switch to a different set of podcasts when my wife is in the car. Does AntennaPod have anything similar that I'm missing?


I always wonder why they refuse to put their news onto a feed except through NPR One. I've just been going without...


I don't like using fingerprints because my fingerprint is literally left on the reader. Anybody with a scotch tape can get a copy of my fingerprint left on the reader or the screen. That's like writing down your password on a post-it on your monitor. Anybody dedicated enough can then make a fake finger that can log in.

Not that I'm worried about someone pulling this spy operation on me but if my laptop is lost or stolen, I won't have the peace of mind.


I think what killed AIM, MSN, etc. was SMS. You had to meet your friends in person at school or be home in front of a computer to talk to your friends. With SMS you can talk to them anytime, anywhere. Then smartphones came out and apps like WhatsApp, FB Messenger and LINE took over.


> I think what killed AIM, MSN, etc. was SMS.

The United States got SMS a lot later in the piece than other countries, didn't they? From my experience the opposite of what you said appeared to be true - what started to kill SMS here was services like MSN messenger and eventually facebook etc afterwards


Not only that, but SMS was extremely expensive in the US. If you didn't have a text plan, they cost $0.20-$0.30 a message, and unlimited plans were in the neighborhood of $30 a month. Texting didn't really take off in the US until the prices started coming down, and that didn't start happening until Google and Apple launched their own messaging apps.


I had the T-Mobile sidekick pre Android which ran AIM and I thought it was revolutionary at the time to not have to be on a PC.


The sidekick was so ahead of its time. Push AIM, email(including pop3!), an appstore. I still have fond memories of mine.

Not a surprise that Andy Rubin went on to build Android.


MSN was helped by the integration into the most used email at the time, hotmail. It was still pretty good, you could play mind sweeper on it with your friends, most of my international friends used it. they had a pretty good market penetration in China too.

Then MSFT was like, OK we bought skype. EVERYONE WILL USE SKYPE.


Yeah. I miss Messenger, it could have become what FB Messenger is now, but Microsoft decided otherwise.


I don’t think so. Most people I know (myself included) use FB Messenger because it already has all your friends on it.

MSN doesn’t integrate with your FB contacts automatically so not sure it could occupy the same spot.


For me what killed MSN Messenger was Microsoft. I would have not had a need to ever use FB Messenger were it not for the merge of Skype and Messenger. Both Skype and Messenger were good back then by themselves, but the result of the merge wasn't so convincing for me. I literally only use Skype to talk with my parents - noone else even uses it anymore...


I think MSN for me died when I finished middle school. Everybody kinda lost contact (going to different schools / apprenticeships) and we stopped writing.

Then new people I met (online and offline) were all using Skype. This was just right before Smartphones came out.

Then offline people slowly started joining Whatsapp or Facebook groups.

Online people stayed on Skype until Telegram took over a few years ago.


Here's a 2014 study of top 39 US CS programs on what language they user for their intro courses. More than half use Python, followed by Java.

https://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/176450-python-is-now-th...


If Slack was down for 5 minutes in a month that will break the 99.99% SLA. If you pay $6.67/mo for Slack, 6.67 * (0.01%) * 100 = 0.07

Yea I'll rather have Slack for that 5 minutes than save my company 7 cents.


If your company is only paying Slack $6.67 a month, you've either negotiated for an amazing discount or I really hope your chatbots are fun to talk to.

But I agree with your assessment: the purpose of the 100x is almost certainly to make it less offensive to receive an SLA credit. The only thing worse than having downtime is getting a credit that doesn't even round up to a dollar.


I'm just using the per user cost here. $6.67/user/mo is the standard plan price if you pay annually.


Most companies tend to have more than one employee - especially when they decide to buy an employee chat software.


7 cents per employee per month isn't exactly a generous discount either. Even if your chat is down for half the work day (4 hours), you're looking at $3.55.

I mean, it's better than nothing, but let's not pretend it's compensation for lost productivity either.


My thoughts are this: even at 100x, the service credit is probably not that significant to the recipient. But the amount at 100x is significant to Slack. As the recipient, I don’t think too much about the money I receive back, but I know those credits in aggregate are quite painful to Slack (and a lot more painful than they could have otherwise justified) so I know they are taking the issue seriously and will work hard to prevent future outages, which is worth a lot more to me than the service credit.


As a matter of fact, the median company size in the United States is 1 - almost 80% of businesses have no employees at all!

But I agree that most of those 0- and 1-person businesses are probably not Slack customers ;)


I'm using unit cost here so it's easier to see how I personally feel about it. Just multiply the number by however many employees you want to imagine.


And if you have 100,000 employees on slack, that compensation will be $7,000. For a company of that size this is not really noticeable. Refunds don't really matter, I guess most clients would be happier if that money was invested in increasing future reliability.


Pretty sure most companies have more than one user


The SLA only applies to the Plus plans.


Peter's point still holds. If the company has 100 employees, that is $7! For 10,000 employees, it comes to $700!

His point is that it isn't really significant. How can "catching" him on the single employee assumption be the response.


The number of companies for whom Chat SAAS is a major expense is probably pretty small. I think the refund is more important for how it impacts Slack than how it impacts its customers. As long as the refund is substantial enough to significantly impact Slack's bottom line, then I'm more inclined to believe that they are going to make a serious effort to avoid paying it in the future. That said, I'm not sure that refunding at this level represents a sufficient incentive.


7$ for 5 minutes of downtime in a month? That seems good to me. 1 hour would be a better example I guess, 84$ for an hour of downtime, that seems to be low for the amount of work that "may" have been lost, but then, that's weird to depend on a chat software that much.


I don't see what's weird about that -- before companies relied on chat, they relied on email -- in my company email can go down and people hardly notice, but a Slack outage is immediately met with cries of "Hey, are you having trouble with Slack!?".

Before companies relied on email, they relied on phones. My company doesn't even provide desk phones for most staff, only Sales and other staff that need to make a lot of calls have them.

So what's so weird about companies relying on Slack?


They were down for 53 minutes by their reckon and 115 minutes if the OG tweet times are right. Rough split the difference and say 65 minutes downtime, the refund would be ~ $62.50 for a 20 person team bill per month at current rates. That is not too shabby for being out of service for 1 hour during North American primetime. If they were out for 4 hrs 30 mins, it would have been a full refund for the month for everyone!


It is worth noting the SLA only applies to the Plus and Enterprise levels, so it would $12.50 / user. Still only 12.5 cents per 0.01% downtime per user. Doesn't really change your point though.


At 8 hrs outage/month, Slack would be completely free.

And that's a great way to test that you have backup comms systems working.


At 8 hrs outage per month, slack would have been out of business 4 hours ago.


This might be a good scenario for Apple. Apple doesn't have to build a backdoor, which is good for PR, and the Feds got what they want to they'll stop bothering Apple. Which is the position Android/Google was in all along.


So the tinfoil hat theory here is that Apple itself leaks the cracking tech to Cellobrite to ease the fed pressure, and keep reputation intact? Sorry, I don't buy it.


I'm not suggesting any theories. I'm just pointing out that Apple isn't really in a terrible position because of this news.


No one at Apple would share source code? You never heard of iBoot.


That's not really the strongest interpretation of GP's statement. It wasn't implying that nobody would ever share source code for any reason, but that the company would deliberately decide to share source code in order to obtain fly-by-night compliance with government requests while maintaining its public image.


That happens all the time too, and I'm sure Apple is no exception. Want to score that big NSA storage contract? Pony up your HDD firmware... for "security assurances." Suddenly, NSA has exploits for all 7 major HDD manufacturers.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/nsa-hid-spying-software-in...

Hmm, how did Apple get cleared for DOD use?

http://www.zdnet.com/article/iphones-ipads-cleared-for-u-s-m...

What process would be required for that? Hmmmm.


One thought I had was that species evolved to maximize the survival of the species, not the individual organism. Once an organism is too old to reproduce or contribute to the survival of the species, it's probably better to die than becoming a burden to the rest of the members of your species. It sounds cold hearted and brutal but that's just how nature works. Maybe it is possible for an individual organism to reproduce and live forever someday but that would be very hard to achieve and we're probably stuck in a local maxima.


That doesn't really answer the question, though, of why animals get too old to reproduce. Surely it would be evolutionarily advantageous for an animal to be able to reproduce for its entire life.


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: