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I'm glad it's those kinds of mines rather than the ones I first thought of.

Does an AI also playing your game somehow detract from the pleasure you derive from it? I find it entertaining both to play the games, and see how LLMs perform on them; I don't see how these are in any way mutually exclusive.

Nice work. I think games are a great way to benchmark AI, especially games that involve long term strategy. I recently built an agent harness for NetHack - https://glyphbox.app/ - like you I suspect that there's a lot you can do at the harness / tool level to improve performance with existing models.

If that's true, it sounds like the vibe coders are winning - they're creating products people want, and pull in technical folks as needed to scale.

But the argument is not about market validation, the argument is about software quality. Vibe coders love shitting on experienced software folks until their code starts falling apart the moment there is any real world usage.

And about the pulling in devs - you can actually go to indeed.com and filter out listings for co-founders and CTOs. Usually equity only, or barely any pay. Since they're used to getting code for free. No real CTO/Senior dev will touch anything like that.

For every vibe coded product, there's a 100 clones more. It's just a red ocean.


Hey HN - I built an agent harness for NetHack that exposes a Python sandbox for agents to write game commands and script their way to ascension. More recently I built a web app around this framework that allows anyone to watch the agents play live - you can even sign in with OpenRouter and run your own playthroughs! More information about the agent harness here:

https://kenforthewin.github.io/blog/posts/nethack-agent/


We've been optimizing for decades to engineer the bullshit-generating super-soldiers required to craft modern PR statements.


...what?


Hey HN - I built an agent harness for NetHack that exposes a Python sandbox for agents to write game commands and script their way to ascension. More recently I built a web app around this framework that allows anyone to watch the agents play live - you can even sign in with Openrouter and run your own agents! More information about the agent harness here:

https://kenforthewin.github.io/blog/posts/nethack-agent/



> This is insanity masquerading as pragmatism.

> This is not engineering. This is fashion masquerading as technical judgment.

The boring explanation is that AI wrote this. The more interesting theory is that folks are beginning to adopt the writing quirks of AI en masse.


I feel more like AI have adopted some preexisting disagreeable writing styles from the beginning and now we associate these with AI.


The way I like to phrase this sentiment is "This guy is the training data."


Yeah, this is why I have transitioned from "this seems like it was written with AI" to "this is full of clichés." Maybe it was only written by a human or maybe it was written entirely with AI or somewhere in between, but in any case, clichés make it tiresome to read.


At least I'm not the only one who noticed. It's genuinely weird and unsettling how such AI-written blog posts nowadays get to the top of HN easily.


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