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Don't forget to check out the MELPA (melpa.org) repository, which has a staggering array of packages for Emacs. If people do something on computers, chances are someone does it in Emacs and there's a package on MELPA to support it.

Also, the road to Emacs proficiency will be a journey, and you'll want to think about Emacs as something you'll gradually tinker with and tweak to get to a set up and understanding that is satisfying. It's not shiny nor whiz-bang by any means, but path through the learning curve can be extremely rewarding.


Thanks for that link, very useful for me to be able to find that stuff in one place. I want to treat my software development more like I do with physical hobbies and start to learn to use advanced-yet-powerful tools that are well-made. VSCode is perfectly fine, but I see it as something that won't last long in one form, constantly changing things for the flavor of the year tech.


I don't "google," I "web search." And I don't use big G as my initial, primary search engine.

Using Google "like a pro" may have been a possibility in the past but they stopped being a reliable professional tool a long vulgarized time ago.

These days Google serves up garbage search results for babies.


Brexiteers have nothing but disdain for the City and finance. They're a know-nothing movement unswayed by economic research and proudly ignorant concerning, among a myriad of hard truths, the realities of operating in the modern global economy.

They think with a simple wave of their plastic sovereignty wand, Britain will be magically restored to some fictional past where a dominant UK thrived in an economic self-sufficiency bubble. No banking sector or stock brokers required.

Good bloody luck with that, mates.


All the London traders I know are pro Brexit. 100%. People in compliance, 100% remain.


Huh. Given that the City will lose its preeminent spot in the world of finance, I assumed traders would be anti-Brexit. What's the (typical) trader's reasoning?


>Given that the City will lose its preeminent spot in the world of finance

It wont really lose anything. UK can now start new "tax haven" initiatives (discouraged under EU) and companies will flock there better than before...

London didn't get its "preeminent spot in the world of finance" by entering the EU/EEC etc or because of it. It earned that spot by itself 100+ years before...

Not to mention EU is barely doing well itself...


wouldn't you have to cut back on services as a tax haven? The NHS might not be very happy about that.


The NHS is being privatised anyway.



There is nothing secret about it.


As well as being factually dubious, that didn't answer the question.


The question was wrong anyway. You don't have to "cut back on services as a tax haven". Cyprus, Singapore, Swizzerland in the past, etc, have all kinds of state services...

Maybe the one asking had in mind some derelict tax haven islands in the caribbean or so? Not all tax havens are like that...


No, services cost money and have to be paid for. That was my argument. Still interesting that you guys find that there is ground for argument - an irrelvant topic would not be ground for argument, wouldn't it?


Yeah people a quick to forget that London is not what it is because of the EU.

It has been a global hub for centuries.


All of this is true, but people drastically overweight the recent past when predicting the future. The world is littered with cities that were global or regional hubs in the past. Things can change.

This problem gets worse when the past becomes an argument for not taking the necessary steps to mitigate any potential change.


The UK was also the sick man of Europe before they joined the EU predecessors.

The modern successful UK is almost certainly a consequence of closer collaboration with the EU.

Almost none of the reasons the UK was successful before are true anymore.


closer collaboration - closer compared to what? The share of the UK's total trade that was with the EEC/EU fell during the time it was a member.


>The modern successful UK is almost certainly a consequence of closer collaboration with the EU.

Is it? Or just neoliberalism via Thacher making it more alluring to modern capitalism (succesful for society is another thing) and the same cheap credit flood in the 90s+ that happened across the West?


The Empire is no more though.


Right. But isn't there some wrinkle where London loses the trades denominated in eurodollars by leaving the EU?


Not if the companies with the eurodollars can get tax haven in London...


It also used to be an empire, that's gone.


Are they? Never heard of that being forgotten. Sounds like empty brexit fodder.


Traders are gamblers, the city might not lose it’s place, and they’ll be riding a massive wave if that happens. Not a bad calculated risk.


Short it all the way down. Then buy at the bottom. It will rise again... Rather ugly way to do things, but it can work for them...


One would assume lack of oversight and regulation.


No longer has to follow EU rules. Can become a tax haven shortly after.


A lot of traders come from a social stratum where being pro brexit is the in-group opinion.

Reasoning doesn’t really come into it with brexit.


Given that the City will lose its preeminent spot in the world of finance

According to the EU. People who actually work in finance see it a bit differently.


That does not align with how London, which was ridiculously pro Remain, voted.


London financial industry traders and London voting residents are not related.

Greater London residents voted overall ~60% to Remain, but you'd expect that traders live in the Eastern boroughs, and outside London, in Essex (both up to ~70% Leave).


Neither will the % of the population of London who are bankers compared to who are not. So not a fair comparison at all.


>All the London traders I know are pro Brexit.

Along with lots of business owners I know. All of them knew exactly what they are signing up for. The OP's message is precisely the problem with the argument from Remain. They didn't answer any question or worries they had with Brexiteers. ( Or they did but it wasn't really what they were looking for ) And the discourse then fell apart.


>Brexiteers have nothing but disdain for the City and finance.

As the left once did, before it went in-bed with big finance and globalization...


Sadly true.


It's not just finance though. The trade agreement between the EU and the UK only covers goods, but the UK economy is 80a% services...


How many of those services are cross-border though? Does "services" include real estate agents and IT contractors?


One example of things the UK have been exporting is audits, to large companies in the EU. UK auditors are no longer accredited to perform audits of EU countries. Now the have to retake an exam, and then work for 3 years as a apprentice of someone who is already accredited. Since there is no one in the UK that is accredited you pretty much have to move to the EU for 3 years to do that. You can imagine that for a lot of people with families that are 40+, that pretty much ends their careers. Apparently the same goes for many other finance and legal professions.


The majority of UK exports is also services.


I concur with that assessment 100%. It's quite shaming how it's all been handled. Even worse, I've had to take German citizenship to keep my European internet domains.


I've not yet heard what the pro-Brexit faction gets from this? I mean who are the people who stand to gain? Based on the theory that people are motivated by self-interest.

Putin financed the campaign to sow chaos (just like w/ Trump). Murdock monetizes outrage (again, just like w/ Trump). Neoreactionaries such as the Mercers are against any power apart from their own. Boris and maybe the Tories have longed been anti EU, Brexit is just a bludgeon (wedge issue) for elections.

But I don't understand which stakeholders will actually materially benefit from Brexit.

Especially once Scotland leaves the UK and rejoins the EU on their own.


> I don't understand which stakeholders will actually materially benefit from Brexit.

Two types:

- the spivs who felt harangued by all those reasonable EU rules, and are now free to again abuse the unwashed masses (like Farage selling scams on Youtube, or the gentlemen selling flammable cladding to builders). I knew a guy like this, holding dangerous chemicals in his garage and moving goods from China to Iran without ever entering the EU, to avoid any scrutiny of their debatable quality... Kind man but ethically challenged, so to speak.

- the oligarchs who couldn't bend Bruxelles' ears as well as they can make the weather in Westminster. Some of them are not even English, but London is their plaything.


> I've not yet heard what the pro-Brexit faction gets from this?

Farage is currently popping up on YouTube with some financial malarkey (I hesitate to use the words grift or scam but it does look very much in that direction) that presumably wasn't viable before we left the EU.


Scotland needs independence, badly.


Professor Frink, Professor Frink. He'll make you laugh, he'll make you think. He likes to run and then the thing with the.. person...


That monkey is going to pay...


> regardless of their technical expertise

Good luck with that. Trying to make one product powerful enough for the techies yet simple enough for the normies is the software equivalent of Napoleon attacking Russia.


... In the winter.


> One thing I've learned about software in general is that I never want to be outside of the primary use case. If you're not using it the same way that the people building it do, it's going to be a pain to use, and your requests will be ignored.

While this might be true in general, one of the main advantages in choosing FOSS is that features used by a small subset of users are more likely to be kept than for proprietary software.

When a software package starts out, early-adopting power users build its popularity and help shape its growth ... until the package becomes so useful that it is now marketable to the masses. Then, for proprietary software at least, there's a strong incentive to streamline and remove anything the masses don't care about...which can alienate the same people who helped make their package great.

For FOSS, there's powerful motiviation to retain features that even only a handful of power users rely on -- lest that project be forked.

I can't remember the last time I've been feature-burned by a FOSS project. My feature-burn scars for proprietary software, however, are many -- and at least a few are quite deep.


> I can't remember the last time I've been feature-burned by a FOSS project.

The GNOME project comes to mind as free software which regularly feature-burns their users, arguing that people who really needed the feature can monkey-patch their DE's javascript to add it back in.

You're right though, most FOSS seems way less likely to remove features people actually depend on that most proprietary software.


It has been over a decade, and I don’t even use GNOME anymore, and I am still pissed at the way GNOME did their great purge in the 2.x release.


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