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the people who need it. use it.

the fact some people may need it and dont reboot isn't relevant. The option is there.


Briar was funded by the CIA. Partly.


If this is about OTF, do you also distrust Let's Encrypt, Quad9, Tails, F-Droid, Signal, and Tor?


Yeah Signal is fucking rotten. You think its just allowed to exist in the USA? come on man!


Care to expound on that?


Source?


I haven't heard this particular rumor, not like they have In-Q-Tel connections a la Wickr, but they do take funding from the Open Technology Fund [0] which some of the more righteously paranoid take issue with, being US State Department and all. Same parent as Radio Free Asia, Radio Free Europe, Voice of America [1].

[0] https://briarproject.org/news/2018-1.0-released-new-funding/

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Agency_for_Global_Media


Do we have any reasons for concern?

The source code is available here: https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar/tree/master


Stupid idea. We're already having to kill them because of rising numbers.

England is a nation of floodplains. Its also overcrowded.

Another STUPID green fallacy.


Did a free-flowing river write this comment?


lmfao


With beaver, flooding is more common but the severity of the worst floods is lessened.


LOL tell that to the farmer who loses his entire field you wazzick


calm down mate


Exon mibile sponsors this idiicy and the pocahontas crowd happily self destructs. Idealization of reality is a retardation.


The most important factor with email, is that your inbox is encrypted at rest at all times... and cannot be bruteforced.

The chances of your email messages being 'man in the middled' are almost non-existent. Its a micro-percent of live investigations that does this.

The police RELY ON finding messages in either your inbox or the recipients. It doesnt matter if they are encrypted or not in reality. Of course they'd like to read them and if they are this deep into you. Its likely they still will (probably from the recipients lesser password hygiene than yours).

Almost no evidence is every 'plucked' out of the air and read. It just doesnt work that way.

However, software like Delta is better than nothing esp for normies. Its just limited in use for people who really need ways to frustrate LE.

Source: Ive been under NCA and FBI investigation before. Protonmail with the two password method stopped them every time. Memorise the 2nd password and password manager the first.


> Ive been under NCA and FBI investigation before. Protonmail with the two password method stopped them every time. Memorise the 2nd password and password manager the first.

Unless you exclusively use proton-bridge and disabled auto-update, then proton controls all endpoints in which your passwords live.

So what is preventing the FBI from forcing Proton to serve a special UI just to you that will be used to exfiltrate your second password?


In the US you might be able to argue it amounts to "compelled speech", and is unconstitutional.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93FBI_encryption_d...


Nothing if I was a tier 1 Russian spy. but Im not.


You have? Why?


Because people lie on the internet


just the usual dark web bullshit.

no charges but lots of attempted snooping.

fuck them


the cant read your messages. thats the usp of using signal encryption

its the rest of the account and metadata that is at risk


Do you think your whatsapp application is end-to-end encrypted on your device? They control the client so anything is possible.


well, thats the stated functionality! hahaha


just give them your signal number and use signal desktop

i do the same as you as i dont carry a phone anymore (fucking with the police).


Are anyone of you lot getting the realisation onto why they are pushing Passkeys so hard?

They know they access 8 out of 10 phones they seize.

DONT USE PASSKEYS


"Presumably not"

Rubbish. Give me one example? They will have to abide as well.


Not a UK example, but Chat Control (2.0) explicitly exempts various politicians and government officials from being spied on.


Like most immigrants you were sold a lie. Enjoy.


Sorry? The UK has been an amazing place for me. It still is, when I focus locally, instead of being swept up by everything else.

Are you also an immigrant to the UK? I suggest you embrace it.


ive been through all this with the law. no one ever got jailed for not handing over encryption keys unless they were a definitive criminal and theres strong evidence there is criminal data on the device.

they tried this with me (NCA) but the judge wouldnt sign off as they had nothning on me or my device. this did however REALLY want to access it! fuck them. pricks



you just gave an example of a man who was highly likely to have something of interest on his phone. (as signed by a judge)


It is likely there is something of interest on your phone (as signed by my friend Joe). Now unlock your phone or you will be jailed.


Except that doesnt happen. NCA wanted DESPERATELY to access mine. They couldnt do it. No Judge would sign off with evidence their was likely to be something on my phone.

See how real life destroys your oPiNioN?


Why where did you do


Ah yes, the “we have all the power but pinky promise to only use it on the bad guys” playbook. I have complete confidence and trust in that promise. /s


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