Worked for me in firefox, my best is 2 strokes, the hole in 1 is proving difficult.

Have you considered picking a new name for a different concept?

Or have ctrl+o cycle between "Info, Verbose, Trace"?

Or give us full control over what gets logged through config?

Ideally we would get a new tab where we could pick logging levels on:

  - Thoughts
  - Files read / written
  - Bashes
  - Subagents

etc.

That's what ethics are. If you don't make sacrifices for them they aren't ethics they're just conveniences.

This is easy to say until you're an immigrant worker in a foreign country - something one probably worked for their entire life up to that point - risking it all (and potentially wrecking the life of their entire family) just to stop some random utility from having a Copilot button. It's not "this software will be used to kill people", it's more like "there's this extra toolbar which nobody uses".

In life you have to choose your battles.

I hadn't made more solid connections between the current state of software and industry, the subjugation of immigrants, and the death of the American neoliberal order until this comment thread but it here it lies bare, naked, and essentially impossible to ignore. With regards to the whole picture, there's no good or moral place to "RETVRN" to in a nostalgic sense. The one question that keeps ringing through my head as I see the world in constant upheaval, and my one refuge in meaning, technical craftsmanship, tumbling, is: Why did I not see this coming?

"why won't other people make sacrifices for me?"

Because the society in US is arranged as a competition with no safety net and where your employer has a disproportionate amount of influence on your well being and the happiness of your kids.

I'm not going to give up $1M in total comp and excellent insurance for my family because you and I don't like where AI is going.

Just having the option of giving up $1 million in compensation put one far far far above meaningful worries about your well-being and the happiness of your kids.

Not really. We would have to downsize our life.

I'll have to explain it to the wife: "well, you see, we cant live in this house anymore because AI in Notepad was just too much".

I'll dial up my ethical and moral stance on software up to 11 when I see a proper social safety net in this country, with free healthcare and free education.

And if we cant all agree on having even those vital things for free, then relying on collective agreement on software issues will never work in practice so my sacrifice would be for nothing. I would just end up being the dumb idealist.

I posed my comment poorly and trollishly.

I don't think you should make any change you don't want to, I'm not arguing for collective agreement on anything, and I'm not convinced there's a big ethical case for or against AI, even in Notepad.exe. If you can make $1M, go nuts, I just think it's not a great example of dealing with ethics & tradeoffs.

I was more just reacting to your the contrast between ideas early in this thread, and your implication of a $1M comp. Early in the thread there was implication that poor/exploited/low-level workers with few other options were either being blamed for AI in notepad, or should not be blamed. Then you casually drop the $1M comp line. Maybe that's real, maybe it's not but regardless, it felt silly to compare the earlier population with people who can or have made $1M. Of course we all face challenges, and the hedonic treadmill calls for us equally at $1K/year and $1M/year, I just think people in the latter have objectively more options, even if the wife complains, than people in the former, and it's tough to take the latter seriously when they talk about lifestyle adjustments.

I use that a lot, but I find it is useful to avoid purity spirals. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_spiral )

I didn't see it as closing down discussion, so I'll be mindful of that in future.

There is a real danger when presented with a problem to discard a partial solution because it fails to tackle a much larger problem.

It's a call for pragmatism over idealism.

Companies do it with email unsubscribe categories to, which is skirting laws for sure.

These days there is Winget which I'd rather use than either of those.

It's the opposite of free, it's valuable.

Even for features that stay on the cutting-room floor. Especially for features that stay on the cutting-room floor.

I find that 80% of the time the assumptions i made doing detailed planning are invalidated when doing the actual work.

Usually whole subtasks need to be junked and others created.

4. The graph starts January 8.

Why January 8? Was that an outlier high point?

IIRC, Opus 4.5 was released late november.

Right after the Holiday double token promotion users felt (perceived) a huge regression in capabilities. I bet that triggered the idea.

People were away for the holidays. What do you want them to do?

Or maybe, juste maybe, that's when they started testing…

Wayback machine has nothing for this site before today, and article is "last updated Jan 29".

A benchmark like this ought to start fresh from when it is published.

I don't entirely doubt the degradation, but the choice of where they went back to feels a bit cherry-picked to demonstrate the value of the benchmark.

Which makes sense, you gotta wait until you get enough data before you can communicate on the said data…

If anything it's coherent with the fact that they very likely didn't have data earlier than January the 8th.

I'm in a similar but more ridiculous reason. My reasonably modern hardware should support windows 11, but I get "disk not supported" because apparently I once picked the "wrong" bootloader?

I can't be arsed, if I'm going to have to fiddle around getting that working I might as well move to linux.

Much greater than now, given the open discoverability of the original post here, versus the walled-off content we have today, locked away in discord servers and the like.

Furthermore, the act of replying to that post will have bumped it right back to the top for everyone to see.

I agree with this. We are much missing these forums with civil replies and clouded behind "influencer" culture, which is optimized for incentives. Pure discussions as in this example are such a stalwarts of open web.

On the other hand, small websites and forums can disappear but that openness allows platform like archive.org to capture and "fossilize" them.

These forums still exist. Typically with much older and mature discussions, as the users have aged alongside the forums. Nothing is stopping you from joining them now.

My Something Awful forums account is over 25 years old at this point. The software and standards and moderation style is approximately unchanged, complete with 10 dollar sign-up fee to keep out the spam.

Like mosquitos trapped in amber, preserving hidden blocks of knowledge