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The derailing happened where an old piece of rail from 1989 was soldered to a new rail[1].

[1]: https://www.elmundo.es/economia/2026/01/24/69751757e85ecebc3...


All evidence shows that the railway was broken when the Iryo train reached that point.

So, a maintenance issue because of lack of investment.


Well but is the demand for office space in Denver so high?

Lived in Denver for the last 15 years and own a company. You couldnt pay me to have office space in Denver simply by virtue of i'd rather spend commuting time doing something more fun. This applies to just about everyone i know here as well. Many come to Denver for the outdoors and the activities, commutes cut into that time.

It would be higher if the rents dropped, but despite the massive oversupply that doesn’t seem to be happening.

‘Just build more’ YIMBY types should take note of this, though I’m afraid I don’t know what the solution is.


Our evidence from a wide range of cities is that those that build more housing have lower rent growth. Actual decreases are unusual though.

Inflationary policy continues to exist, also it is rare to have a true overabundance of housing. But places like Detroit show prices can go down in the right conditions.

Commercial leases have their own quirks and long timelines that encourage waiting on a better price. Perhaps a tax on vacant commercial units.


> Detroit show prices can go down in the right conditions.

Those right conditions for rent going down are the wrong conditions for everything else.


Yes, meant to quote the word "right."

The investigation is already pointing on the direction of poor maintenance[1].

[1]: https://euroweeklynews.com/2026/01/19/focus-of-guardia-civil...


You left out that the machinists warned about the bad state of the railway tracks and asked for reducing the train speed[1].

There is underfunding in all the railway network.

[1]: https://www.eldebate.com/economia/20250809/maquinistas-piden...


The machinist union requested the maximum speed to be lowered from 300 km/h to 250 km/h on multiple areas, the one where the accident happened being one of them. Both trains were driving under 210 km/h when the accident happened, so I don't think the "rattling" they reported was the issue.

As I mentioned before, this area was renovated last year, so attributing the accident to under-funding is highly unlikely. If the infrastructure happened to be the issue at the end, it might be because of different causes: eg. Planning the wrong materials for the amount of traffic / weather conditions / etc.

In general, when you talk about under-funding in the rail network it's often regional or small areas within the inter-city (larga distancia) and transport networks. High speed infrastructure is very well financed, it's not cheap to move trains close to 300 km/h.


Doesn't need to be underfunding, may 2025 was last summer and this was the first winter, defects in laying the tracks didn't have a chance to show up until now.

The biggest part then might be that they should have listened to the operators warnings and scheduled a proper re-inspection of the route once they started warning of issues.


> defects in laying the tracks didn't have a chance to show up until now.

Defects in laying the tracks have a chance to show up on an inspection, either the final one when building or one done at the regular intervals. If it doesn't shows up, your inspection is bad. If you can't inspect what you build, you can't build it.


all in-laws experts in recession or vulcanology or bitcoin has turned to civil engineering experts.


Not going to be claiming to be an expert, but buckling is a well documented phenomenon and I'd be surprised if there wasn't possible issues due to contraction on the other end of the spectrum when it gets colder, the track was laid this last spring/summer so it's probably not been as cold for long before on the tracks.

Also modern high speed rails are built with continious welding without thermal expansion joints.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqmOSMAtadc goes through track building and the effects and literally mentions at about 12:30 that they do need to do inspections when it gets cold if the track cracks (there was a photo linked in another post about a cracked track).

Is it the cause? No idea but doesn't feel far fetched.

Edit: Seems official investigators are now even pointing to that as an initial theory, https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/investigators-find-brok...


They fixed it long before this. That newspaper it's pretty much a right wing fake news source.


You seem very well informed, so I'm sure you've read that every single railway engineer and independent expert is saying that this seems like a freak accident and that the causes are totally unknown.

Knowing this, you're still all over the thread trying to score political points while there are dead people still on the tracks. One quick glance on your posting history is all one needs to see that you're happy to take any chance to do so, apparently including the death of at least 39 people. You disgust me. Y te creerás un "español de los buenos". Felicidades, patriota.


>You left out that the machinists warned about the bad state of the railway tracks and asked for reducing the train speed

Since two trains collided, wouldn't that have happened regardless of the state of the railway tracks?


The collision was due to one train derailing first, if that was due to the track (as mentioned in andy12_'s toplevel comment) then listening to warnings could perhaps have avoided the accident.


Could have, though both trains were going slower than what the mechanic union asked for. Either or wasn't a factor, or the conditions were even worse than all parties believed.


Some have mentioned that the tracks were installed during may 2025, it's also the first winter so track issues and then thermal contraction could've cause too much strain.


Most recent reports indicate a broken weld on the track, so definitely possible damage from frost heave (is that a thing in the area it derailed?) or poor construction practices.


One possible scenario is that the tracks fail in a way that causes one of the trains to derail and hit the other one.


Unless there is evidence that the accident was caused by the Iryo train, I wouldn’t be so fast to blame the private companies on a decaying infrastructure.

There are plenty of cases of lack of maintenance in the railway network.


> Unless there is evidence that the accident was caused by the Iryo train

I'd say the same about the railway network. We don't know what happened yet.


The railway network has been mismanaged and plagued with incidents for years. See it for yourself: ADIF was aware that there were issues in Adamuz for months[1].

[1]: https://www.elespanol.com/reportajes/20260119/adif-notifico-...


That doesn't mean we know for sure it was that, don't you think? Your comments seem very politically motivated, and you're asking others to not blame it on the train as the reasons for the accident are still unknown and at the same time you're pushing the maintenance issues narrative.


I am nos asking anything. You can think what you want. What the data that we have right now tells us is: new train built in 2022, checked 4 days ago[1], and issues on that part of the railway track for months[2].

[1]: https://elpais.com/espana/2026-01-19/el-fabricante-hitachi-r...

[2]: https://www.elespanol.com/reportajes/20260119/adif-notifico-...


Were you so quick to blame the government in the Alvia accident in Santiago? Just wait for the investigation.


The machinists were warning about issues in the curve of Angrois for a long time.

Why are you so quick on disregarding their opinion?


You mean the People's Party (PP) which was in charge when the Angrois derailment happened didn't do anything to address the warnings from the machinists? Because they had been in government for more than a year and a half already.


You mean the socialist party whose minister José Blanco opened the track?


No, I mean the party who was in charge when all that happened (PP). They had plenty of time to fix that if, as you claim, the machinists were warning about issues in the railroad.


But like the OP says this particular infrastructure area was brand new.


But brand new doesn't mean the repairs / mainenance were done correctly. It could both be brand "new" and defective.

We've seen lots of serious fuck ups in Europe lately: including for a start several cases of maintenance improperly done on big passenger planes that nearly led to hundreds of passengers deaths (several planes have been diverted in the last months and the cause was improper maintenance).

I'm not saying improper repairs/maintenance on the rails are the cause: I'm saying it's a fact we've seen improper repairs/maintenance on passenger planes in the recent months.


I think much manufacturing adheres to the die-young, die-old principle (Often mentioned in the Backblaze reports), manufacturing defects shows up early on, time of stillness and then as it ages it starts to fail.

The tracks were laid in May 2025, that means no winters had passed before now and any defects in the tracks due to temperature differences hadn't had a chance to appear before now.


Railways are neither consumer electronics, nor software. There is a final inspection after construction work, in which the network operator releases the constructor from responsibilities, which should catch any issues. When the network operator later claims, that there was a manufacturing defect, the first question is why didn't it has known earlier, because that is their job.


Childhood’s End was not bad, but it didn’t leave an impression on me. I thought that it was dated (the Spanish watching a bullfight when the aliens came, oh c’mon!). What did you like the most about it?


No. It doesn’t make sense. Should we charge taxes to our dishwasher? People, especially non-technical people, seem to be embellished by the words “AI” and forget that that’s not more than a mathematical and computational process that seems like an intelligent being.

Funnily enough, the leader of the Sumar political party (junior member of the socialist government) was ridiculed by her words about AI (some weeks ago):

https://www.elliberal.cat/2025/11/19/yolanda-diaz-hace-el-ri...


Good premise. The stereotypes he wrote about Spain were atrocious.


Were Xerox, Dec, or Apple burning investor money by the billions of dollars?


> Were Xerox, Dec, or Apple burning investor money by the billions of dollars?

Shhh. You are not allowed to ruin OpenAI’s PPU value. Can’t make the E7’s feel bad.


No, but the comment above and variations of it are mentioned in every thread about IBM, so it’s probably just a reflex at this point without much thought behind it.


“If you’re not happy you can sell your shares”


Xerox is clearly crushing it in 2025... /s


I'm typing this comment from an Apple MacBook, whose interface is a direct result of Xerox PARC allowing Steve Jobs to view the Alto. Xerox was extremely innovative at that time, and with the right leadership, could have become #1 in personal computing.


That's completely beyond the point, though? Kodak invented the digital camera, did not think anything about it and others then ate their lunch. Those others are also not crushing it in 2025. The point is IBM is not the go-to to listen about AI. Also not saying they are not right, even a broken clock is right 2 times a day.


> The point is IBM is not the go-to to listen about AI.

Why not, though? For better or worse, they're a consulting services company these days, and they work with an eye-wateringly large number of companies. I would expect them to have a very good view as to what companies use AI for, and plan/want to use AI for in the future. They may not be experts in the tech itself, but I think they're decently well-positioned to read the tea leaves.


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