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Secondly, I'd like to know how many of the apps that Heroku hosts are actually production apps.

Agreed. Because of Heroku's unreasonable pricing, I see it as a feasible service only for staging and development. Without deep pockets, I would never want to host a potentially popular app on Heroku since I could never afford to scale it there. And because I don't want to have to go to the trouble of reengineering something after it's been developed to move it elsewhere, I would rather build it elsewhere from the start.


What about how heroku is designed would require re-engineering if you move it elsewhere?

Rails + SQL + Memcached = the most standard stack you can build, aside from the fact that they use Postgres. Most of the addons aren't too hard to setup oneself either.


It doesn't make me glad. I think we could achieve much more significant progress in science if we weren't held back by ethical demagoguery.


Voting you up because I see your point, but the problem is that without ethics committees you get cases like these slipping through.

When the public hears about these cases it serves as a rallying cry for the animal rights movement and makes it harder for everyone doing animal research, even those who aren't torturing monkeys because they're emotionally disturbed.


Immediately quotations from Spiderman ("With great power comes great responsiblity") and Jurassic Park ("Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.") come to mind.

Human progress without ethics and compassion is no progress at all.


Not really. If they derive a cure for cancer unethically, and I have cancer, I'll be the first in line for it.


Luckily for you, many PIs in the research field agree with you and have lax morals when it comes to torturing innocent defenseless animals. Compliance is a joke and doing whatever the hell you want to whatever creature you want (humans included, mind you) is as easy as checking a box on a piece of paper that nobody reads.

Our species is a virus, and we do whatever we can to protect our own kind until there is nothing else left.


Very William S. Burroughs.


According to this listing, Australia is not even in the top 20: Luxembourg, Ireland and Hungary seem to be the top three.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_co...


I'm wondering if the article in Wikipedia is really based on "alcohol consumption" and not Alcohol reported to be sold in the country?

There is a clear reason why Luxembourg is on top. The taxes on alcohol is (very) low in Luxembourg and a lot of people from the countries closed to Luxembourg (Belgium, France and Germany) are buying their alcohol there. We don't forget the travellers (Luxembourg is a crossroad in EU) making a stop in Luxembourg...


That explanation could work for Luxembourg. But Ireland?


I hang out a couple times a year in Europe with a group of primarily Irish, Germans, and Danes and the Danes are the only ones I ever see drinking at breakfast. They're also the only ones who've ever commented on the fact that I wasn't having a beer at lunch...


> According to this listing, Australia is not even in the top 20:

That was back in 2003.

These days Australians take their drinking far more seriously:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/foo_alc_con-food-alcohol-c...


  SOURCE: OECD Health Data 2005
That data set is not very recent as well.


That list doesn't account for the type of alcohol. A liter of whiskey would do more than a liter of beer. Point: Australia could be drunker if they drink relatively more hard alcohol than those higher on the list, giving mahmud the win.


I'm pretty sure they count only the quantity of ethanol consumed.


Yes. It lists 12l of alcohol for Germany where the average person drinks more than a hundred liters of beer.


That answers it. Half of my social circle in .au are Irishmen ;-)


I'm not sure what you base your statements about Europeans on. From my experience in both cultures, there is very little difference in this respect, except for the provision of greater societal safety nets in Europe.


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