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This kind of view tends to logically conclude in the idea of a noumenal, unknowable reality. I think it's more reasonable to say that truth itself is gold star we award to descriptions that suit our purposes. After all, descriptions are necessarily approximations (or reductive or "compressions"), since the only model of a thing with 100% fidelity is... the thing itself.

Reminds me of the blog post about Waymo's "World Model". Training on real-world data results in a sufficiently rich model to start simulating novel scenarios that aren't in the training data (like the elephant wandering into the street), which in turn can feed back into training. One could imagine scientific inquiry working the same way.

It strikes me that many of these complex systems have indeterminate boundaries, and a fair amount of distortion might be baked into the choice of training data. Poverty (to take an example from this post) probably has causes at economic, psychological, ecological, physiological, historical, and political levels of description (commenters please note I didn't think too hard about this list). What data we feed into our models, and how those data are understood as operationalizations of the qualitative phenomena we care about, might matter.


> like the elephant wandering into the street

Or a dinosaur that looks like it might:

https://x.com/phatman_19/status/2030728278437491102


This "world model" concept has been a big deal in AI research, in LLMs.

Might sound like a rube here, but: is agentic development really this good at novel UIs? The video shows a sort of cassette tape music player, and a fancy looking audio visualizer/equalizer thing. I'm well aware agents are very good at boilerplate UIs, but I wouldn't expect them to be able to one-shot novel, dynamic UI elements like this. I've had Claude attempt some SVG animations and the results were very crude. That was a year or so ago though. Are there established ways of letting agents iterate on UIs, i.e. having them visually verify the visual design and interactions?


Hooooo, boy, if you haven't used Opus 4.5/4.6, do yourself a favor and check it out. It's pretty good.

My experience has been that Opus consistently generates UIs that are genuinely good. As always with anecdata, YMMV.

There's a reason Tailwind Plus has revenue problems right now.


I had the same results a year ago. Everything has changed since ~Nov 25, give it another go and you'll be surprised


I really don't know anything about it, but I'd speculate that the fantasy is plain old 'misattribution of arousal'. The heart gets pounding at the idea of violating the taboo against incest, and that bodily state is interpreted as sexual arousal. Not that I'm suggesting that there is just one explanation of something as complicated as this.


you are both correct, but what if there is no trauma?

two teenagers move into the same house because their parents started a relationship. they see each other little because both step-parents have shared custody arrangements. they have no biological connections whatsoever. four years later they are both 19, alone together a lot, et cetera. but simultaneously, this is a huge taboo, a betrayal of the parents, a great psychodrama

i knew one guy in college whose girlfriend cheated on him, with his biological father. a great betrayal, a great freudian cuckolding. what kind of strange fantasy will this man have now?


I ran it on the "society if..." meme lol

https://imgur.com/a/nFQN5tx


For those like me not up on the hip memes: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-world-if


It's funny to see as a joke, but you can go the other way with this too. Image editing models and LoRAs for "previz-to-render upscaling" workflows are actually incredibly useful.

I was just writing about this (scroll about halfway down to the images of Sam Altman - though if you like that, do watch the second video):

https://getartcraft.com/news/world-models-for-film

The best model I've found for this, that almost bakes in full ControlNet capability, is oddly gpt-image-1.5. It's absolutely OP at understanding how to turn low-fidelity renders into final draft upscales.

Here are some older experiments:

https://imgur.com/a/previz-to-image-gpt-image-1-5-3fq042U

https://imgur.com/gallery/previz-to-image-gpt-image-1-x8t1ij...

https://imgur.com/aOliGY4

I just wish it didn't require invoking such heavy-weight, slow, and expensive models to do this. I'm sure open models will do this work soon, though.


You are able to do this stuff with open models for 1-2 years now, i for example have a comfyui pipeline that achieves a similar setup. It’s of course more work and you have to dig into the details more. I also have to adjust the pipeline and tweak it and use different models for each use case. But overall you can definitely achieve that level of control with open models already, it’s just not that user friendly


It's funny how know your meme has to sanitize the 4chan out of memes.

The 'how society would look without x' has been a racist trope on 4chan since way before the cited examples.


That doesn't pass the sniff test, many other pages on knowyourmeme correctly attribute memes to 4chan.

If you were right that would be easily verifiable. Do you have an example of a post dated before 2018? Maybe you're getting tricked by the fact that 2018 was 8 years ago?



I think you are taking their point literally, its not that knowyourmeme is not crediting 4chan, its that the racism/edge is polished off presenting a more mainstream version of many memes.


This is you explaining that you have never plunged into the depths of Know Your Meme.


> If you were right that would be easily verifiable. Do you have an example of a post dated before 2018?

How?


Link to a message on one of the many historical archives of 4chan?


> racist trope on 4chan

So what? Are we going to bring back generational sin as well?


What’s going on with that (robot?) dog leash?


This is just Moscow


OK this is too fun. I did Reverse Anti-Render on a dreary scene in Moscow:

https://imgur.com/a/mqMEPUl


Now this is just Moscow in summer


I remember looking at an architect representation thinking, but the sun is always on the other side of the building.


There is a 35-story luxury apartment tower in my town, sold with the typical rendery renders, and the pooldeck is actually built on the NORTH side of the tower. Gets sun for maybe 15 minutes a day.

They couldn't rent all the apartments so they took a huge block of floors and started Airbnb-ing them (including allowing amenities access for the short term guests). To the great disgust of all the residents!

Trainwreck of a building.


Love how the sign "Ulitsa" changes into something unintelligible but keeps different cyrillic characters.


Diffusion models struggle with text.


Less and less these days, at least if the text is in Latin letters.


Pretty good. Compare with a real sunny day on that street.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/kf7ELMLoFPn3qioDA


Looks like Luebeck, Germany.


That almost looks like a scene from half-life 2


Is...is that Darth Maul on the left?


It seems you haven't been to Moscow for the last 20 years. With all the oil money + cheap workforce it looks much better than EU capitals.

It is rather Novosibirsk.


Or Dundee. The third "after" pic needs more Surron tracks up the grassy bank though.


Too clean.


As someone in the UK, this was especially chilling.


For context, internet has been nerfed in the UK, because of Epstein scandal politicians there started thinking too much of the children.


Looks like Machinarium. I like it.


What a beautiful and nostalgic game that was. I’ve never had a game hit me like that since!


I played it with my wife on the couch over many winters evenings, and then ten years later played it with my daughter. Good times. Reminded me of playing Sierra games as a kid.


Same here, though no kids yet.

I bought the soundtrack on vinyl (by Tomáš Dvořák, aka Floex), then got a record player, aaaand ended up accumulating a ton of records since then.

I still play that record though, it never gets old.

The other game that we enjoyed in a very similar way is Primordia [1]. Named our first cat Crispin afterwards.

You will probably enjoy Boxville [2]; it's very much Machinarium-inspired. Its sequel, Boxville 2,came out recently, so there's more in store.

It's Ukrainian-made (Machinarium is Czech), so the devs share a gritty post-communist childhood to draw the inspiration from.

[1] https://primordia-game.com/log.html

[2] https://store.steampowered.com/developer/triomatica


I also love the soundtrack so much and have listened to it thousands of times, especially By The Wall, my favorite song. PS: Thanks for posting the composer’s solo name, Floex, because there were (are?) two people with exactly the same name working at Amanita Design, bizarrely!


There’s also an album called Machinarium Remixed, which is the original soundtrack made into slightly more energetic/EDM tracks. Really good stuff.


I especially love "Mr Handagote" from the soundtrack, absolute masterpiece which gives me goosebumps every time.


I really enjoyed "Samorost 3" by the same developers. Machinarium still takes the cake though.


Don't miss out on their Botanicula too!


Yeah, it's really a masterpiece. It's utterly fantastic.



> Thank you for submitting to /r/memes. Unfortunately, your submission has been removed for the following reason(s):

> Rule 1 - ALL POSTS MUST BE MEMES AND FOLLOW A GENERAL MEME FORMAT

> All posts must be memes following typical setup/design: an image/gif/video with some sort of caption; mods have final say on what is (not) a meme

Reddit mods, man.


> 4,613 points

> 96% upvoted

> Removed by a single moderator for subjective reasons while the sub's front page is full of crap

Ah, the quintessential Reddit experience.


Well to be fair Hackernews posts can get flagged too by the community itself where people then later talk about how or why a particular post gets flagged and discussion starts moving about the moderation/flag issues in HN.

(But this isn't to say that the fault's within the moderation community of HN which are great but just the issue which to me is imo that if many users flag a post, it can get flagged and the friction of getting it back is hard or a post typically ends up dying usually if it gets flagged in general imho)


There’s nothing subjective in the removal reasons.


Born too late to be a Stasi bureaucrat, born right on time to be a Reddit mod.


I was also wondering how the image got 16k+ views (as of now) (the stat was on imgur)

I was wondering what/how many HN users clicked on the image (not knowing it was uploaded to reddit too)

But now I seriously wonder out of those 16k (as of now), how many were/are from the hackernews community and how many from reddit.


For however brief a moment. It's gone now.


Reddit shows cached versions of posts on the front-page, so it might actually remain there for a couple of hours after the subreddit mods deleted it.


Does anyone have a mirror? I’m in authoritarian UK so the link is blocked


If you're in the UK in January, you can probably just look outside and that's approximately it.


I wish the UK looked this good.


Have you been to the Barbican?


The rimigo proxy works for me: https://rimgo.vern.cc/a/nFQN5tx


The link is blocked by imgur themselves, not the British government (authoritarian or otherwise), because the ICO was going to fine them for historic poor handling of children's data. https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/media-centre/news-and-blogs...


What does that even entail? Why does a site like Imgur even need to know which users are children?


Didn't it have user accounts and comments?


It had user accounts and it hosts prodigious amounts of porn, so it ran afoul of the part of the law that says that if you have user accounts and host user-generated content of any sort you have to make sure you're not showing porn to children.

It's annoying, but Imgur really do need to get a handle on things because that's where people host all the CSAM they post into Matrix channels.


> Does anyone have a mirror? I’m in authoritarian UK so the link is blocked

Here you go. I had it uploaded after hearing from the magospietato's comment but then saw you talk about the same so I am pasting the same image link here as well

https://files.catbox.moe/c4smhd.png


This looks like Rotterdam ten years ago


The future depends on what we do in the present

~ Mahatma Gandhi.


This looks like the average abandoned World's fair location from the 2000s


That may be quite close to the truth. Here are pictures from some abandones pavilions from the 2000 World Expo in Hannover. Sad to see this, as I lived in Hannover at that time and had a really good time at the Expo.

https://vergesseneorte.com/die-expo2000-in-hannover/


Looks like a lot of the "millennium" architecture (late 90s-early 00s) we have around my home city.


Complete aside, but it's beyond infuriating I need to enable a VPN here in the UK to view this link.


It's ironic because it looks like a picture of a dilapidated 2000s "millennium park" type of location which are common in the UK.



> Complete aside, but it's beyond infuriating I need to enable a VPN here in the UK to view this link.

Here, I uploaded the image to catbox.moe if anyone's interested.

https://files.catbox.moe/c4smhd.png

I don't think that catbox is blocked within the UK.


This was the first thing I thought of, and it's gotten the hug of death now; thank you for uploading it.


So the future looks like... Germany?


If it could add mold and rust stains to the concrete it'd be perfect.


Wrong country


the world if autumn comes


This looks like a scene out of Enterprise.


Ugh, this looks way too real...


You are a genius.


It's funny reading this take, because I went through a fancy coffee de-conversion myself about a year ago. I have a burr grinder which can produce the appropriate grind for the brewing method. I have a dedicated coffee canister with a one-way air valve for storage. Both have been relegated to storage. I buy cheap cans of pre-ground coffee and make them in the french press, which I decide is done steeping after some indifferently measured while.

This blog articulates some of the reasons well. Many people claim the "ritual" of brewing coffee correctly is calming or grounding or something. I myself realized that the rigamarole was born of a sort of neurotic desire to live up to a stupid social expectation to have the correct tastes. In fact, I like the taste of cheap coffee - thin, vaguely burnt... yum (due to nostalgia? Maybe, who cares). In fact, I often dislike the lighter roast and terroir and whatever of "good" coffee - my wife and I often joke that it tastes like vegetable soup. I take my coffee with cream anyway, which I imagine blows out the subtle tasting notes anyway. It's how I like it!

Saving money is great. Though I'm still very much afflicted by the nagging worry that the cheap stuff, not being organic, shade-grown, fair trade, etc. is brought to me by African slaves toiling in a cloud of nasty herbicides. I hope not though!


> White House Deputy Communications Director Kaelan Dorr defended the post after criticism of the image manipulation.

> “Enforcement of the law will continue. The memes will continue. Thank you for your attention to this matter,” Dorr wrote.

The banner image on Dorr's X account reads: "oMg, diD tHe wHiTE hOuSE reALLy PosT tHiS?"

You're right, and I'd add that the agenda goes well beyond muddying the waters. This administration is deliberately normalizing bad faith, lying, and trolling. Discrediting critics as humorless, pathetic pearl-clutchers. I don't believe that their supporters strictly "believe" in Trump's alternate reality - they know that Trump and his cronies lie non-stop, and they like it. Accepting these lies serves as a shibboleth and lays the groundwork for discrediting fair elections, bogus prosecutions of political opponents, and everything else this administration is doing to corruptly hold on to power and demoralize their opponents.


The corollary is that literally everything that the US government communicates should be assumed to be a lie. Even normal, boring announcements from the USDA and such are communicated in the voice of a terminally-online twitter troll.


Its the Firehose of falsehood. Pioneered in Putin's Russia. It is extremely effective.


Rationalism in philosophy is generally contrasted with empiricism. I would say you're a little off in characterizing anti-rationalism as holding rationality per se in low regard. To put it very briefly: the Ancient Greeks set the agenda for Western philosophy, for the most part: what is truth? What is real? What is good and virtuous? Plato and his teacher/character Socrates are the archetype rationalists, who believed that these questions were best answered through careful reasoning. Think of Plato's allegory of the cave: the world of appearances and of common sense is illusory, degenerate, ephemeral. Pure reason, as done by philosophers, was a means of transcendent insight into these questions.

"Empiricism" is a term for philosophical movements (epitomized in early modern British Empiricists like Hume) that emphasized that truths are learned not by reasoning, but by learning from experience. So the matter is not "is rationality good?" but more: what is rationality or reason operating upon? Sense experiences? Or purely _a priori_, conceptual, or formal structures? The uncharitable gloss on rationalism is that rationalists hold that every substantive philosophical question can be answered while sitting in your armchair and thinking really hard.


You're (understandably) confusing rationalism the philosophy from the Enlightenment with the unrelated modern rationalist community.

For what it's worth, the modern rationalists are pro-empiricism with Yudkowsky including it as one of the 12 core virtues of rationality.


Oh! :) I saw "philosophy" and "rationalism" in the same paragraph and went into auto-pilot I suppose.


It's pretty unfortunate that the Yudkowsky-and-LessWrong crowd picked a term that traditionally meant something so different. This has been confusing people since at least 2011.


Well empiricists think knowledge exists in the environment and is absorbed directly through the eyes and ears without interpretation, if we're being uncharitable.


Sure. The idea of raw, uninterpreted "sense data" that the empiricists worked with (well into the 20th century) is pretty clearly bunk. Much of philosophy took a turn towards anti-foundationalism, and rationalism and empiricism are, at least classically, notions of the "foundations" of knowledge. I mean, this is philosophy, it's all pretty ridiculous.


This is the most egregious one in my eyes, too. I've run A/B tests on a few signup forms and without fail it validates the standard practice: the lowest drop-off rate comes from removing every possible obstacle and distraction. I'd bet a few dollars (which is as much as I'll ever bet) that design update would perform worse. The tool is almost intriguing as a _reductio_ of certain design practices.

The "after" designs all replace the rather generic "SV startup with a tailwind UI" with this serif font, parchment color look. It looks very similar to Anthropic's branding. I guess it looks marginally more distinctive? Though it seems to replace one knock-off visual identity for another. But the claim is that the tool here is implementing best practices through a sophisticated "design vocabulary", and in that sense the examples strike me as manifest failures. I find the general legibility of the "before" designs to be much better.


Author here, fair feedback. These examples were rushed, and didn't come out great. For this particular one, the concept was 'trustworthy, expensive life sciences company" of sorts, but it's still not a great before/after example. Removed for now, and will switch out for better examples soon.


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