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For me, trying film after growing up in the post-digital world was more about exploring the experience of the medium and why we ended up where we are. It's given me an appreciation for why slowing down with your subject can increase "keepers".

I've come to the same realization after shooting digital, film, and back to digital again.

I've found that if I apply "recipes" or "presets" to my camera and shoot jpg I get roughly what I want straight out of camera. In fact, I find that shooting jpg exclusively with a preset _almost_ scratches that film itch: there is a kind of permanency to the rendered output, and that forces me to slow down and think about what I want to render with this subject like one does with film.

Once I'm done shooting I simply import to Apple photos and make very light edits from there if any before sharing.

It's liberating to embrace constraints and reduce tooling. You might even have fun.


I'm still doing iOS dev on my 2020 M1 MPB, and it's fine! I expect that if I change out its battery and apply new thermal paste it would run for another 6 years.


This machine has me asking why much older hardware can't run newer versions of macOS. The answer of course is Apple needs to sell new machines, but the Neo may be proof that decade old Macs could run Tahoe as well as or better than the Neo.


> but the Neo may be proof that decades old macs could run Tahoe, and maybe as well or better than the Neo

The A18 Pro is going to out perform many "decades old" processors, which would you be referring to?

I wouldn't conflate "affordable" with "low-end" in terms of processing speed. Apple is able to get the price to this point because of decisions that the rest of the market did not make.


I think an old Mac Pro quad Xeon with 32gb of ram and an ssd of that era could do it. I agree that most cpus from 20 years ago could not. I understand that doing it and doing it well aren’t the same.


I'm not sure this really makes sense. The single core performance for the iphone chip is leagues ahead of anything even a couple years old. They can likely increase clock speed of the iphone chip in a larger chassis so the performance isn't exactly 1:1 with the 16 pro, which was hardly a slacker. 8gb on apple silicon goes much further than 8gb would have on an intel chip, due to faster and on chip RAM and much faster storage to enable smoother use of swap.

I'd agree that an m1 chip can probably continue to run modern macOS for a very long time, and they will likely drop support for it much earlier than they would need to.


I totally agree on the M1 bit. I just think there are so many capable machines that are unnecessarily scraped when they could be working with up to date software. Sure, they can run modern Linux or windows, but doesn’t that mean they could probably run modern Mac OS in theory as well?

I understand that running for power users and running for my uncle aren’t the same.


Eager to see the Xcode benchmark on this. Would expect it to be similar to the M1, but we shall see! I still use my M1 MBP for light mobile development work. Sure it's slow, but it certainly works. It's wild to think you can buy a new laptop that costs less than an iPhone and write apps for an iPhone.

What's fun about this machine is its constraints, and it sort of reminds me of one of my processors orchestrating our school's server cluster via nothing but an 11" MacBook Air back in the day.


Since we're already dealing in absurds here, what if one were to Doordash 50 servings of wings as a emergency/backup catering option for a banquet or wedding? That could easily top $500-800. I sure some consumers—including financially secure ones—would appreciate an interest free loan option on that.

Obviously there is also the opposite dark and pessimistic take here, but there are potentially good things as well?


A financially-secure person can put it on their credit card, and pay no interest because they always pay their full statement balance.

Someone who can't probably shouldn't be spending $800 on wings.


>A financially-secure person can put it on their credit card, and pay no interest because they always pay their full statement balance.

klarna offers a 4 equal interest free payments option. How that any different from a credit card?


As a financially secure person, why would I want to spend $800 today when I can spend $800 over four months with no penalty? It doesn't make any sense in the slightest, that is unless you're not savvy enough to keep track of your money?


Klarna is four payments over eight weeks. That's about the same float as a credit card, which can be up to 60.


I was mistaken in thinking it was longer than that. If it is only about two months then it's of little value over a conventional CC (depending on when you buy it in your statement cycle).

My example with the wings is an extreme/incidental use-case, and I realize that it'd be atypical to unheard of in practice.


Because for me, overspending is a bad habit, even if there's no interest.


im all for let us poor brokies do what we want


The sort of person who would order wings as their backup catering for a wedding doesn't shouldn't be borrowing for this, one would think. If they did need the loan they were already stretching themselves far too thin for a wedding event.


Well, what if you were in budget, your caterer failed to meet their obligation but aren't paying you back for several business days, and that extra $800 put you just over budget?

This is an extreme/incidental example, and very likely isn't how this feature is going to be used in practice: I realize that.

>The sort of person who would order wings as their backup catering for a wedding doesn't shouldn't be borrowing for this, one would think.

We're splitting hairs over personal opinions on personal finance here.


>Well, what if you were in budget, your caterer failed to meet their obligation but aren't

Ok. This is for someone who is thinking that they need another $500-800 for the backup catering. For them, an extra $800 with no warning is an expense they can't just eat with the change in their pocket either, one presumes. But they're budgeting for a wedding that likely costs upwards of $7500 (all other costs considered), and they're spending that much without being able to set aside another $1000 for last minute incidentals? I think that this cost might just be the sort of bad decision making that we're all talking about rather than a legitimate use case. And that's even allowing for the recovery of the funds from the original caterer.


The net effect is 0 if you're being paid back and paying back on time. How is this any different from putting it on a CC and paying it back on time? What's the big deal here that warrants this level of discussion? Why not let others do them and you do you? Maybe the real bad decision we're all participating in here—myself included—is feeling the need to split hairs over a hypothetical situation about personal opinions on personal finance?


> Why not let others do them and you do you?

Debt affects everyone, not just the borrower and the lender. When lenders make one bad loan, society can bear that burden and especially so if many of the loans are good loans that serve mutual interest. When most of the loans are bad, taxpayers pay to enforce loan terms (not the lender), then they pay again when the economy melts down (the lender just reincorporates under some other business name). So it is a big deal when someone is proposing an entirely new class of lending, and it does warrant this level of discussion. If anything, it warrants a much more intense level of discussion than what we've seen so far or what we are likely to see.

Your inability to grasp this is disturbing and should come across as some sort of profound warning to everyone.


You've stepped way out of the discussion we were having and are now engaging in sanctimonious grandstanding.

> Your inability to grasp this is disturbing and should come across as some sort of profound warning to everyone.

Way out of line, dude. Now you're insulting my ability to understand things? You think I don't know about all that? Obviously there are plenty of people who don't deserve credit, but there are also plenty who do. I take pride in having an exceptional credit score.

I'd get those wings. And I'd have a 'profound' time sharing them with friends and family making memories.


13 year ago I had a professor who had one of these 11" Airs for this exact reason. He was always tunneled into some other system and the Air primarily served as his terminal. He loved it for that.


Wishing that apple would either allow macOS on the iPad pro or bring back the 12" Macbook with Apple Silicon.


Why can't Apple just sell native macOS support for iPad at a rate where they wouldn't cannibalize their other offerings? I'd pay around $300-$400 for it without hesitation.


It's not about the money, it's about the principle. The entire reason why the iPad exists[0] is because they think fingers touching mouse software is a bad idea. Some people couch this request in terms like "well what if they made macOS touch friendly", but the answer to that is "that already exists, it's called iPadOS."

What you actually want is for iPadOS to shed the limitations of the mobile OS it evolved from. That's a whole different set of asks; many of which cross different but equally strongly-held red lines. A lot of the features of macOS that make it useful for developers - the native UNIX shell, Virtualization.framework, third-party distribution, the ability to relax signature verification on software[1], files that live outside of app containers[2], and most importantly, root access - are all things that Apple considers outmoded and insecure. Insamuch as macOS still supports them, it's because software developers require them to work, so Apple has a policy of keeping software development corralled to macOS instead of letting developers and their attendant security issues spill over into their "device platforms".

[0] Going all the way back to Steve Jobs having his engineers make a tablet computer demo out of sheer spite for Windows XP tablet edition

[1] Or, on Apple Silicon, outright just sign your own OS kernel

[2] On other Apple platforms, your "On My iPad/iPhone" files live inside of a special container for the Files app; and there's another container for iCloud files. There is technically still a home directory, where all your app containers live, but you can't see or interact with it unless you jailbreak.


I want Xcode on my iPad. Principles be damned.


I'm not sure if they would canibalise anything much. The sell each year around:

1) 230m iPhones

2) 50m iPads

3) 25m Macbooks

Macbook is pretty much niche product to them comparing to Windows market share. Many would still wanna own Macbook even if iPad would support MacOS. They would sell much more iPads and bring bring more users to their ecosystem, familiarise those that used Windows before and maybe they would buy Macbook later on.


As someone struggling to find the limits of his M2 iPad air, you don't.


Hopefully 7 years from now you'll still be able to use it with modern apps, websites, and video content. IMO, The benefits of these chips are in longevity rather than pushing them to the limit today.


This is the pretty obvious answer. I'm looking at replacing my gen-3 iPad Air from 2019 because it's feeling pretty pokey now. (And my wife's gen-1 iPad Air from 2013 is entirely unusable.)


I don't think there's any amount of processing power that can keep up with website bloat long term, but you out to get an extra year or two from the M3


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