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hmm, We answeed that question before with

> It's simple, Fennce is a Web app for "Conversation on controversy"

does that sound better?

We are torn on this because we did'nt want to limit it to just plain kinda mainstream controversy. It could be anything that involves two sides. So we decided to add perspective there to make it seem less limiting. Maybe just saying "conversation on controversy" is our better option.


Even that's not immediately gettable. "A place for debates" (or some variation: "A place to debate your friends.", "Take on the world.", etc.) does it.


Ahh I see. I wanted to avoid using the word debate, because I found it made people think of everything as plain serious.

I tried to exchange that word with "battle" but that isn't as descriptive as the word debate. I'll defiantly have to change that specific sentence so it clicks easily.

To be honest I had the idea that we should simplify that phrase. One shouldn't have to be confused by the 5 words that describe the website in a nutshell.

Thank you for letting me know what you think I really appreciate it man! Thank you


I like the direction in which your taking things. I feel that your work.. is just a good herculean effort away from being very mainstream.. I just wanted to comment to let you know.

Keep working on it man, It is looking good. there may be things that are off (from what I can tell) but I also can tell that your well on your way to having a very nice polished product.


I agree with josh.

Why not explain a little more.. furthermore I would limit the choices between View plans and Try for Free. People don't want to be reminded to out shell out money and work better with fewer options. It is hard to imagine early case scenario of people skiping straight to the paid plans, let alone using it in the first place right? The first priority is building the user base i'd say put the view plans button in the navigation or somewhere else and just have a big fat "try it!" button. If people are interested and like your product they can Evangeline and actually go to a paid plan.

So them why! (I think you can incorporate the plan selection in the "try it" process also if you must have it there. But make it a little more inviting!)


Thanks. I'm inclined to agree with removing the plans link and putting more emphasis on the free signup link


I disagree. You'll get a lot of people to signup with little conversions. Address the real issues the the grandparent presented: tell a story.


This is Great. I was going to ask what direction you were going to take this in.. but it's interesting that you only have jobs listed for/at really startup companies that most geeks want to work at. I'd say you should drive that point home a little more if that is what your focusing on.

Otherwise, yeah dude take it to the next level. Keep reaching out to add more of them.. I'm sure you can be well known for offering jobs in this space.. great quick clean idea!


Well one important thing I would have to say is to first pick a style!

It's easier to mature and gauge your progress when you choose a style and then mature it progressively. The through constant practice and maturation, you willl become better at the process. Both a drawing with great detail and one with lack of therefore can be drawn by the same "talented" artist.

I'd say the three basic places to start are typography, proper padding, and style (which can be use of borders, rounded corners, sharp edges, or minimalistic as long as it's consistent). There defiantly is always a style that can be identified with each artist's work. And even with someone with the greatest portfolio you can usually identify elements that reveal the artist art work. So what you will have to do is iterate and experiment with the above until you develop.

1. A style to commercial (or your) liking.

2. Basic sensibility when it comes to web design or your relevant project space.. the sensibility changes with the medium at least to a small degree (design common sense).

Just like you use your judgement to decide to at least a small degree who's advice is worth listening to in this post, you need to build that same common sense up for design. I suggest doing mini front page fake products up to build up your skills. When you get better at that (you should notice significant improvement after 6-10 projects) try to go a little further and create an FAQ or about page for that product with that style it will become alot easier since you've already gave "definitions" to how some elements should work and the overall spirit of the project.

(One thing to note is it helps to have at least SOME Photoshop and Illustrator skills, at the very least you might want to add some texture to your products and custom gradients. IMHO it's alot easier to get great work out when you can over kill the project. Just barley getting through it with hard "Crusty the clown" colors will bleed your project. This is coming from someone who taught himself good web design)

I'd be glad to show you my latest projects for you to judge for yourself. Hope this helps.


It looks great alot seems to be in place and it's obviously well thought out. The two things I would consider is maybe re-wording the header, I think the objective of that was to fill up the empty space with bigger words, and then have the smaller text as a description. It seems most of the big text is just fluff I think you so reword it to include a quick pitch of what it can do via iphone/website/logo mockup-wise.

Furthermore maybe the process to go signup could be one click faster if here was a signup button on the home page.. instead of a "login button/ see pricing plans button" I mean the pricing plan button works as a sign up it just doesn't say so.. maybe that is just me I clicked the login button at the top right since usually the login/signup is at the top right.

Good luck with this project!


I would defiantly pay.. just like i pay for any other service I enjoy.. if I would like to continue using the service or for the service to grow it needs support so why not.

If I don't care about the service then of course I won't.


Dude the website is bad ass.. you did a good job with getting us in asap now make it sticky and get a hooker in there!

(figuratively speaking of course)


This is great, really easy to get into.

Have you considered doing a demo video as an alternative to the "how it works" page? (like from beginning to affiliate success), and maybe suggestions/tips for users thinking about signing up?


Yeah, I am in the process of doing one -- just waiting to add the "non-monetary" campaigns into the mix.

Once we push that to production (tomorrow) I plan on creating one.

Thanks for the kind words and feedback.


I like it I think it's defiantly an awesome job for a weekend project. I'd have to agree maybe you should add a little more to the description (that it only works with last.fm). Although I can clearly see your interface is similar to backtype there.

Looking forward to what you can do next weekend! I'd like to see you mature your logo a little too, although it looks great even now. =P


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