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I appreciate the thought but this isn’t even a David and Goliath .. this is David’s infant taking on Goliath… Oracle spends more on lawyers than engineers. If this 200k is spent it will be thrown in the garbage. Unless Oracle wants to release it on their own they’ll happily stay in court until every penny Deno has is gone and not think twice about it. Have the team focus on something else.. this isn’t even worth typing up and putting on their website.


they make a good case that the fundraising would go to assembling evidence like surveys, witnesses -- i.e. discovery -- rather than the billable hours. They probably have pro bono attorneys. Any lawyer would love a W against Oracle in a notorious case like this. Their career would be set for life.


I know there are all kinds of lawyers and pro bono work and such. But $200k sounds like a tiny pittance in lawyer world


> If this 200k is spent it will be thrown in the garbage.

How much will oracle pay to defend that $200k of effort? If the ratio is good enough it still sounds like a worthwhile cause, that is Oracle paying for, in my opinion, holding on to the javascript trademark unduly.


But surely it counts for something than Deno has the facts on their side?


Click bait headlines allowed on here now? It clearly states they are giving it to the GSA which is the government - where the funds originally came from. Can't hand these people money without them complaining ..


The US government was intentionally split into 3 parts. This "Institute of Peace" was established and funded by the US Congress. The Executive should be pursuing the intent of the legislation. In general they've been failing to faithfully execute the law.

I'd be totally fine with Congress cancelling the whole thing, but it hasn't happened.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/4604


Which is a polite way of saying the GP doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about. Or they are trolling or filling airspace for the machine.


It is not an executive building, and they have not claim to it. They will take credit for the cost savings, hence "gift".

This is not clickbait and can't be overstated, there is no precedent for this sort of action in recent history in the US. Your normalcy bias is the problem.


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The elected congresspeople who voted to fund this should go to jail, even though there is no law broken? You are advocating for a wild system of government sir.


> You are advocating for a wild system of government sir.

You can always finance a revolution to change it, if you're not too busy buying stereos.


Wait 'til you find out what the next tax cut (for over 400k households) is going to be funded by: 4T debt.


No, nothing vaguely critical of the current administration is allowed here now. Astonishing really, I didn't think it would happen on HN of all places.


It’s an independent non-executive non-profit established and funded by congress, not an agency under the executive branch.


Very cool will try it out. Like the bun support


thank you! You may find a Live Demo example (deployed as a Bun app) mentioned in this wiki: https://github.com/fullsoak/fullsoak/wiki/Concepts-&-Example...

And Jude was kind enough to roll out a Deno example on Glitch: https://glitch.com/~fullsoak


Average couple pays $34k a year for housing.. That's $2800 a month folks.. Guess we all need to move to San Jose


Want to know how I know you haven’t used an LLM?


It's funny Mozilla has a blog that renders about 20px to wide on mobile. The company that makes most of the web standards. Something ironic about that


> It's funny Mozilla has a blog that renders about 20px to wide on mobile.

This is caused by the string "sha256-tG5mcZUtJsZvyKAxYLVXrmjKBVLd6VpVccqz/r4ypFE=" which does not wrap properly. Using "word-break: break-all;" on the pre element would fix it.

> The company that makes most of the web standards.

That is incorrect. Mozilla is only one of the several companies and working groups that may be involved. MDN is documentation, not specification.


That, and this article in all likelihood was written by a single person whose main job isn't writing a blog. It definitely wouldn't have been been written by "the company"

You don't absorb your company's entire knowledge base just by virtue of working there after all


Renders fine on Firefox Android (no horizontal scrolling), but I do see the extra width on Chromium based browsers


It doesn’t render at all on my ipad pro with iOS 13.7. Actually it does render and then immediately turns black. People give w3schools a lot of flak but at least it renders and is usable on my ipad unlike the MDN docs. Do we no longer care about backwards compatibility, it seems not and that’s shameful.


FWIW the mdn blog works just fine without js so maybe try it while disabling javascript.


Im guessing this has something to do with certain protocols not supported on an (almost) 4 year old browser without any (security) updates.


> Actually it does render and then immediately turns black

This sounds like javascript behavior (MDN, to my surprise, is built on React).


Worked in one. They are safety nightmares. They give safety bonuses if “nothing is reported” so nothing gets reported. Working conditions suck.. you spend your time begging for AC in a metal can in 100 degree heat (outside) on top of that the craziest thing was how subcontractors made money. I was in test so we wondered why certain runs of cable were way out of spec. Turns out subcontractors are paid by the foot to install cable so it would take the longest route through. Nuts. Never work there.


There's a BBC Nova episode about the soviet union with an apocryphal story about train schedulers being evaluated on the amount of cargo shipped by distance so of course, freight was sent on the least efficient route to its destination. Amazing to see the exact same metric get gamed again.


German trains are evaluated on their timelines. If a train is more then an hour delayed passengers get their money back. So every train that runs into a high delayed is marked as "Cancelled" and if followed by an "Ersatzzug" that is curiously similar to the canceled train, because if the train is cancelled, the passengers don't get their money back if a Ersatz is followed promptly


It doesn't work that way. Travellers are entitled to 25% restitution if they arrive at their destination station between 1 and 2 hours later than planned, 50% reduction if delayed by more than 2 hours. It does not matter how they arrive there, either using their originally scheduled services or some alternative ("ersatz"), it is the time of arrival that matters.

BYW, this is not just in Germany, the rule goes for many countries in the EU.

Source: been there, done that (too) many times.


I don't know if it was actually the most efficient strategy, but the thing I always liked to do in Transport Tycoon was find a coal mine etc in one corner of the map and a power station etc in the other one and build a line delivering between them - you got paid by the mile so when the train finally arrived the fee would be massive. Didn't realise that was actually an accurate (modulo apocryphal) element of the simulation :)


it's also what we do in Age of Empires 2 with our merchant carts.


None of that is accurate other than the fact it might be hot if the AC isn't running, and there are a lot of perfectly legitimate reasons why the AC might not be running.

We actively encourage reporting of all incidents, and cable runs are not determined by subcontractors trying to find the longest route. Cable runs are determined by drawings done by the Navy and they're installed in accordance with the drawings or people don't get paid. That's definitely one of the most absurd things I've ever heard.

I spent nine years on CVNs and many of those years in the yards installing, deinstalling, and maintaining equipment.


So, you worked with them on the same projects, and that's how you know they are lying about their own firsthand experience?


The paid by the foot thing is why I am doubtful of OP's story. There are drawings of where cables go in every aircraft and ship and building owned by DOD. Their accuracy with respect to reality, of course, is not always spectacular but these drawings existed before construction began. The subs routing cables arbitrarily through the ship is not likely to go unnoticed, and is better described as "sabotage" as it makes future maintenance and repairs nearly impossible.

"We're paid by the foot" is exactly the kind of snarky answer I'd expect someone to give if asked, "Why are you doing it that way?" when "that way" is the way the drawings lay out and the person asking isn't a supervisor or monitor of your work.


I would not be surprised if "paid by the foot" is correct. But paid by the foot of the cable installed to an external spec, with no ability to choose routing.


I helped install the combat systems on a CVN, so I can speak pretty authoritatively on how that process works. It's not different on different ships, that contracting process is very cookie cutter. Contractors don't get to choose how they want to run cables. Everything is carefully specified and if it's not followed nobody gets paid and they have to rip it out at their own expense.


so why does the government/navy incentivize such bloated inefficiency, slop, and misuse of resources/time/money/energy?


They don't. Op fabricated the story, as pretty much anyone in the Navy would confirm for you.

Source: several relatives in the navy working on ships, also have dealt with the contractors in question that run cable. Contractors absolutely do not get to determine the route cabling takes. There are endless reasons that would be insanity starting with basic security of the ship. Do you think random contractor X gets to loop cable through the reactor room because it'll make him a bit more money?


Yeah… I’ve heard a lot of stories about shipyard dysfunction from friends and relatives, but it’s nothing so exciting. It’s mostly poor planning that results in expensive waste and slowdowns.


It’s really difficult to impose efficiency on outside contractors without them cutting corners.

Congress doesn’t want the government to do anything in house.


Wouldn't requiring that "cable runs" "meet spec" impose efficiency?

(for the definition of efficiency that is worth caring about anyway)


Any single issue can be addressed, but this is a meta issue.

There’s overhead to a more detailed specification. Creating it takes time and people need to read and understand it, then you need someone to inspect the results to keep someone honest. It remove flexibility, and even tiny changes require large updates to the specification when then need to be reviewed etc.

So simply adding details to a specification inherently reduces efficiency.


my job has me managing multiple contractors/vendors at a time. you employ checks and balances, contractual obligations, smart project plans and requirements, and regular oversight.

how is this any different.


You see, these contractors tend to hire retired admirals and generals directly out of acquisitions positions and onto their boards. The contracts are written in ways that make it hard to punish shoddy work in a way that doesn't make the government side look bad too, so they tend to let slide what is kept out of sight. After all, if someone makes enough noise, then your contract may end up on the news or even worse, on the hill. If that happens, contracts get yanked, people get reassigned or lose their chance at a kushy spot on a board in a few years. It varies by contract and organizations, some are much better run than others and tend to deliver good quality.


It's so much money that all the best scammers can't resist, and so much bureaucracy/regulation that all the honest folks reach their limit and move on.


PPBE, though now that's changing with the new Defense Resourcing System [0]

[0] - https://ppbereform.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Com...


Very cool love the design of the site and now I know which cart to win with


You could make an outlook/excel add in. Sales people live in those two apps. Without that you are battling to be that “second screen” as you mentioned and sales folks aren’t generally tech savvy enough to “go it alone” on your solution vs the status quo. Looks nice though good luck!


An Outlook/Excel add-in is a great idea. Something that lets you peek at CRM data related to a person/company, you mean?

We support syncing Outlook email/contacts into Okapi. Definitely agree that outside of tech, Microsoft's stack is predominant.


Oh this is a cool idea.

We've considered working on a chrome extension to help sales people pipe data into our product, but we haven't thought surfacing CRM data to salespeople in other apps.


Sorry this article is incorrect as it gets. Bambu could have done the same thing with Cura or any other slicer program and Cura and Prusa are built on other open source projects so to say if they kept the doors closed it would have helped is not honoring all of the engineering efforts that came before the big names capitalized on it. What has actually happened is that Bambu figured out the market isn’t people that like to tinker with their 3d printer - the market is people want to print things to tinker with. They focused on their market and made a ton of small features that add up to a user experience that is nearly as simple as it can be allowing you to do something as easy as print from your phone. While Prusa finds more places to put PRUSA BY PRUSA ORIGINAL PRUSA on their machines that look like 3d printed hacker machines Bambu made their machines simple with a minimalist design that actually looks good enough to show your friends without them wondering how long you looked at the matrix to get it running.


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