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No, some were better.


They pulled harder on the bootstraps!


The machine can only "decide to let you win" if you have the skill to get close, otherwise no chance.


If the very last step of the process is that the machine decides if you won or not, it's not a game of skill.

It takes a degree of skill and coordination to pull the lever on the slot machine, yet we don't call them a game of skill because of that.

If you're 100% accurate and you still lose, it's a game of chance.


Every winner will have made a skillful shot, hence a skillful shot is required to win. It's a combination of both therefore you obviously can't claim no skill is required at all. Nobody says that a slot machine is a game of skill because nobody considers having the coordination to pull a level to be a skillful attribute.


Moat losers will have made an equally skillful shot, and the ratio of losers to winners is >> 100 : 1 because that's what the device has been programmed to do.


Nobody said that skill was sufficient to win, I am simply pointing out the obvious fact that it's still required (in response to nkrisc who claimed that no skill was required at all, only luck).


My point is the skill component doesn’t matter if it’s ultimately down to luck.


It does matter. A person with skill has a higher probability of winning than someone without skill. There are two sequential checks... first, the check that the user is not in control of, the "will the game let you win" check, then the "did the player use enough skill to win?" check.

Let's say the game only allows 1/100 tries to have the chance to win. Player A has the skill to win 50% of the time, player B 25%.

Player A will end up winning 1/200 times, while player B will win 1/400.

Skill matters.


One gives you a chance to win when you are skillful. If you are skillful enough, you will win eventually just by chance.

The other may never pay out even if you are 100% accurate.

This is a big difference.


Your "big" difference is useless and changes nothing to the topic at hand. Nkrisc claimed that no skill was required at all, only luck, which is clearly false. I was just pointing out this obvious fact. Nice strawman attempt though.


"extensive"


More than almost any other vaccine in history, despite the scare media from universally politically aligned fringe sources


What nonsense. It isn't FDA approved and won't be until 2023. Literally the most dangerous vaccine in history.


So you would choose not use the vaccine and let covid run rampant for 2023?


If you don't link to the thread, everyone will prefer to disregard what you say.


See up above, where someone found it in the Archive.


Yes, treated like people that can be replaced by robots.


We all can eventually be replaced and should be careful what precedents we establish now. “First they came for the warehouse workers...”


It didn't happen with industrial revolution, I doubt it will happen now. Robots will not replace plumbers, waiters, teachers, barbers - at least not in the nearest future.


Clearly one of us has more faith in automation.


More accurately "first they came for the weavers."


Well, the weavers did fight back on their own behalf.


He is proving his point by contradicting himself, a true mathematician.



Its the DK effect in action.


You just fed one


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